This year has been an extraordinary one for me in the Sugar Bowl. More women, more arrangements, and my rotation keeps growing due to the new ones showing up almost every day. I imagine some sort of critical mass has been reached, more young women are aware of Sugar Dating, more are trying it out. I was just thinking about crunching some SB numbers so here's what I came up with.
The nearby city's official website says says there are 908,000 people in town. I'm rounding that up to an even million for the 100 mile search radius around my own town, 50 miles away. 50% are female. Age group demographics are harder to find. But I did find that 10% are 18-24yo. Also 27% are 25-44 yo. So I'm just guessing that the 18-30 age group is approximately 15% of the total.
1 million, x 50% female x 15% gives 75,000 in the 18-30 yo group.
Then I did a SA search for my town plus 100 miles, 18-30 age group, with no other limiting factors and came up with 1344 hits.
That represents 1.8% of the total females in the age group.
Even if my assumptions are off, I think there must be between 1% and 2% of the women 18-30 who try Sugar Dating. That percentage may reflect the "critical mass" required for this to feel like it has really taken off. Do you think those percentages are typical of your markets? Do you give a shit about this kind of analysis!
Cost of living in big cities plus life in the fast lane attitude in big cities can jump the numbers. Also maybe a big university town might bump. I hope 2% is right and not 10 to 20%.
A great sociologist may someday find that "hot" chicks participation is much higher. Lol.
Used to be angry at how education costs kept skyrocketing and the gap between the rich and poor kept growing. These days, with hotties banging me all night for what I sometimes make in an hour, I love it. No doubt, there will be more sugar babies and prostitutes as these things go on. Also don't forget how they all want to show off on Instagram and can't pull that off without sugar.
Interesting and reasonable math.
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Tried to copy your method for Los Angeles county. Numbers are normalized (i.e.; best guess) as I had to look across multiple sites with varying time frames and inconsistent "slicing" of the data:
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Total Population = 10,170,000
% Female - 50.7% = 5,156,190
% of Female 18-35 - 25% = 1,289,048
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Now the problem.
A search for 18-35 within 100 miles of LA County yields 10,000+ listings
A search for 18-35 within 50 miles of LA County yields 10,000+ listings
A search for 18-35 within 25 miles of LA County yields 10,000+ listings
A search for 18-35 within 10 miles of LA County yields 10,000+ listings
A search for 18-35 within 0 miles of LA County yields 10,000+ listings
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So you see the problem:
If I use 10,000 results I get a SB rate of 0.78%
If I use 20,000 results I get a SB rate of 1.55%
If I use 30,000 results I get a SB rate of 2.33%
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If I use your rate of 1.8%, I would expect 23,203 results in Los Angeles county.
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But the practical reality is any number over 5,000 results, let alone 10k to 50k, is a whole lotta potential.
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Possible next steps: I wonder if it would be meaningful to breakdown your 1344 results by "household" income or some other financial metric like average rent, cost of living by zip code vs 1344 results by zip code...?
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Not worth my time to do the research, 'cause I'm too busy banging 18-28 yr olds. But hey sweetman, nock yourself out! 
Yeah, there are things about the SA website I really don't like, and one of them is their decision to stop counting any numbers above 10,000. Weird decision, since putting up the actual numbers would be interesting and informative. Why not? I really appreciate the work you've done on this. But I agree, no more research, time to get back to chasing pussy!
You need to refine your search so you are getting an accurate count. 10,000+ could mean 10,001 or it could mean millions, so it's a meaningless number to use statistically.
Try narrowing your search to 18 year olds only or whatever age range search it takes to get the number below 10,000 and then total up the numbers to see just how many 18-35 year old there really are. I do suspect the actual percentage is somewhere between 1 and 2 percent as there are supposedly somewhere around 3 million sugarbabies nationwide, which would translate into just under 2% of the women in this country. As you said "A whole lot of potential" lol
Because I find the whole "underground economy" aspect of this just fascinating. The SA world is interesting for this type of analysis, because we have some notion of both endpoints in the equation: The number of nearby women who COULD do SA, and the number of nearby women who DO.
There are some complications:
(1) SB's are transient so if there are, in Sweetman's analysis, 1.8% of the potential SBs who are actual CURRENTLY SB's then the total %tage is even higher, because the current results on the SA site don't capture those who tried it and quit, or those who have yet to to try it.
(2) I've run similar numbers, more often just using the college girl population nearby and come up with estimates for 0.1% to 1% who are on SA. My experience with several(!!) girls from a local college sorority seem to indicate a high level of awareness of SA and a high level of participation too.
(3) And in opposition to point #1, I know for sure that some SBs have used multiple profiles, so this tends to lower the %tage of women in actually participate in the Sugar bowl, because we're double (or triple, etc) counting those who do.
(4) and there is the interesting flip side to this: Of that nominal 1M population near Sweetman, 50% are male, so what percentage of those males are on SA, looking for SBs? I don't have any good numbers on this, but the answer for my immediate locale (small town of 75,000) is REALLY low, something like 15! So, the math, 70,000/2=35,000, cut that a bit for say, ages, 40-70, so maybe 20,000 and the SB percentage is something like 15/20,000=0.08%.
(5) So, it appears that, around my town at least, there are lots of SBs for every SD. How many? At least a few, and possibly as many as 20. This is in sharp contrast to the escort world, where it is very clear that there are many more hobbyists than providers. This disparity between those two worlds likely accounts for the differences in behavior (much longer dates, sometimes aggressive solicitation and pursuit of SDs by SBs) and the lower prices.
(6) A big conclusion is that the escort/hobbyist world, enabled by the internet, is now being disrupted by the internet. The famous word in internet commerce is "disintermediation" and it is happening again: Centralized sites and third parties like TER and pee four, etc, are being cut out by a direct SB/SD connection.
Sorry for the PhD thesis, but this issue has always interested me, and another big conclusion is that things are now good for guys pursuing these women, and are likely to get better over time.
Awesome Dude! Now I gotta go back to SA and log in as a female and find out how many SDs there are in my original search area!
Pretty insightful analysis, even if all of us are using rather inexact data.
Makes me wonder if there is a way to easily find the SD to SB ratio by major metro areas. It would be very interesting to see if those who whine (but apparently rightly so) about living in pussy Siberia, are actually in an area where the ratio is low (i.e.: fewer SB available per SD). As the ratio get closer to 1:1, or even 1:>1, the SD would need to use an ever expanding range in his search to find quality candidates.
I also appreciate your comparison to the pro vs SB world. The inverse relationship appears to adequately explain the various dynamics of pricing, scheduling, and additional non-sexual activities for no additional pay, etc. Food for thought...
Might invest the time to create a female profile and check out the SD population in my metro area. Never really cared who my "competition" is, but still, could be interesting to understand how the SB's perceive me vs. other penis-shaped ATM's in the same area.
I would love to know what sorts of places have the best ratios. Is it near private or public colleges? In OC or LA where you can't walk 50 feet without seeing a hot woman or a really expensive car or a so called pussy Siberia that also has no sugar daddies.
I'd love to see breakdowns of allowances for body types, ages, races, etc for both sugar babies and daddies.
SA should release some fun shit like that cause most of us SDs are probably geeky enough to like it. Heck, if it were specific enough, I'd use it to decide where to buy a second home or take a vacation.
Imagine you could pinpoint a place where houses are cheap, very few sugar daddies are around, and your ideal 10+ body type is available for almost nothing.
I had a SB who let me look st her side of the app to see the men in my area once.
For SBs, I’m in a small town and my search expands to 100 miles around, that’s just over 700. If I just do my city it’s 250 ish. The SD side had about 25 men. 10 to 1. My pussy Siberia the fishing is good.
You also have to wonder how many of the young college women, once they graduate and enter the professional working world, will not hesitate to also use their sensual wiles to advance their careers by fucking the boss or others. I'm an oldie, but have seen women do this, with the expansion of sugaring, I suspect quite a few more will take their skills and fuck a boss or two to advance their career, secure assignment to the choice customer accounts, or insulate themselves against layoffs in bad times.
2644 guys to 10,000 plus SBs in Chicago with a 100 mike radius
One is a snapshot. At a given point in time, how many women in a certain group are active? "Active" could be defined in various ways--having a profile on SA or another site, actively looking for guys, or actually hooking up.
The other is more of a longitudinal approach and would yield a higher number. How many women in a certain age group have ever been active (defined consistently with the above) as a SB?
In the snapshot approach, one may find that 1-2% of the girls age 18-25 in Los Angeles are on SA, for example. The longitudinal approach, which would be more of a historical retrospective, might show that 5-10% of women in L.A. were active as SBs when they were between 18 and 25.
I don't have any hard data, but I think the 1-2% and 5% figures may be fairly accurate, at least in some areas. When I talk candidly with women, a surprising number say they have friends who get or have gotten financial help from older guys. Often they met in a restaurant or mall and not online.
8 or 9 yrs ago when I first joined the Sugar Bowl, the pickings in my small city were sooo slim that I often drove 100 miles or more to meet new SB's in FLL, MIA and Tampa !
Now my market is FLOODED with new SB's every week and now ladies from 100 or more miles away are offering to drive here to meet me 😋
Times are changing in OUR favor !
because it’s only numbers
But, just for interest, the very large university near me
Has an “activity” rate of nearly 7% according to SA
So happy hunting!!
About 5-15 percent have done some form of pay-for-play from what I have read. Many do it only a few times though. I suspect big city college girls do it more.
However, for say 18-30 ladies actively doing it, I would guess that it is no more than 2 percent.
