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Using moving averages for total score is not a good suggestion imo
team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 0 reads
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There shouldn't be a way to game a system into producing more favorable outcomes, and also there shouldnt be a way to artificially weigh any review less than any other review.  

 
If you want to depict recent reviews, do it like Steam does it where they showcase BOTH total average score and "recent reviews" with clear indication of how many, over what period and average score.  

So both would be fine if they're put side by side, but you cannot substitute one for the other.  

 
If you arent weighing the reviews equally, then it's a problem. Obfuscating the total score by favoring recent ones is a system just waiting to be exploited.

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Anyone know exactly how the TER score is derived?  Usually the overall score is higher than the two base scores.  How does that work?  

Thanks

But I think 4-5 years ago or so TER added in "chemistry" and "incall location" to the equation but I am honestly not 100% sure. I was fine with the old method. I am not sure what positive change brought to the table but maybe someone here who knows better might chime in.

are potential score enhancements that speak to the overall experience, but do not carry anywhere near the weight of Looks and Service.  A good score can only move the needle in fractions of a point.  For example, an 8/8 can move to an 8.1 or 8.2 for averaging purposes, but I'm not sure how the enhancements are factored in because they're based on 1 to 5 "stars" and not numbers like Looks and service.  

 
Many reviews talk about "connection" or chemistry during the session and some ladies are adept at making us feel special and others not so much.  This is a way to express your sentiments to other mongers on that topic.  At the same time, I think EVEYONE appreciates an incall that is easy to find, clean and well-equipped.  There's a huge difference between an upscale apartment and a room at Motel 6.

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My score barely improves when I get a review it will go up a very tiny bit, like 0.01

🤷🏽‍♀️ chemistry & incall I just know I am 5 ⭐️  

It’s very hard to achieve greatness in TER if you don’t know about the scoring system. I have been trying to improve over the years. It’s interesting 🤨 learning about the different factors at play.

The more reviews you have, the lesser the impact of each new review will be on your average.  For example, if you have one review that is a 10, and your second one is an 8, your average will appear as 9.0, plus a small adjustment for the "stars" you received.   If you have 3 reviews that are 10's and then your 4th is an 8, your average before the enhancements will be 9.5.   If you have 20 reviews that are 10s and your next one is an 8, your pre-enhancement average will be 9.9.  You can see from this that the more reviews you have, the less each succeeding review will impact the overall average.

 
This is why providers with 50+ reviews are seldom worried about the occasional low score because, 1) you can't please everybody, and 2) It barely affects your score at that point.  It's important for new providers to give their best efforts in the beginning of their careers while they establish a baseline for their scoring.  Good scores in the beginning are critical to building a successful brand.  You have said before that you screen for "connection" as well as other factors.  This is important. If you can weed out customers who might not be a match for you, connection-wise, you can mitigate to some degree the number of occasional "bad" reviews.  An example of this would be a 40-year-old provider booking a 22-year-old customer.  It won't ALWAYS end badly (with a bad review), but the risk is higher that you will not get the scores or the narrative in your reviews that will drive more business to your door.   If I were a provider, I would not see any men who are not within 10 years of my own age.  As an older customer, I can say with certainty that most 40 to 45-year-old providers still look very good to me, but I probably wouldn't have thought so when I was 25.  Age disparity is what most often results in a disappointing review.  

I personally feel it would be a better idea for TER to implement a system of  moving averages. Like Lyft does for its drivers.  It shouldn't matter that much that a provider got 5 or 6 in 2016 when she first started because she was very new to the business. If she is doing well now, that should count more in establishing her reputation   Maybe last 6 months or 50 reviews whichever is greater would be a good way to score.   For those of us who have been in the industry for a while, either as mongers or providers, we know how things can change on a dime.

to give more weight to recent reviews, and the trending over time will tell us if she is getting better with time or possibly burning out near the end of her career.  You should put that on the suggestion board where admin will see it.

I've heard in a while on TER. Though, I don't think it's a new suggestion. But it would be nice, and largely a pretty simple coding change I suspect.

There shouldn't be a way to game a system into producing more favorable outcomes, and also there shouldnt be a way to artificially weigh any review less than any other review.  

 
If you want to depict recent reviews, do it like Steam does it where they showcase BOTH total average score and "recent reviews" with clear indication of how many, over what period and average score.  

So both would be fine if they're put side by side, but you cannot substitute one for the other.  

 
If you arent weighing the reviews equally, then it's a problem. Obfuscating the total score by favoring recent ones is a system just waiting to be exploited.

Sellers should focus on quality of product or service they're selling, over the rating or number theyre receiving.

 
When you start worrying too much about perception and what people think of you, over the quality of product, then you focus on improving the wrong thing.  

An improved product or service will lead to better scores in the long run and likely generate a loyal fanbase.  

An improved score without an improved service or product just makes you more short term profit without gaining customer fanbase.

telling a restaurant owner not to pay attention to his Yelp reviews.  A new provider should become a TER VIP (and I believe QB will back me up on this) and read reviews of other ladies to understand the correlation between menu, performance and connection/chemistry, and how that impacts the resulting reviews.  They should read the narrative and look for keywords that give an indication of how the reviewer arrived at the score he/she gave.  

 
It's doubly important for them to read their own reviews.  The narrative should be read carefully with them looking for ways they might be able to do something differently and have it result in a better score.  Negative comments can be especially insightful in setting them on a path to improvement providing they are constructive, instructive and reasonable.  If someone complains that she wouldn't let them stick their foot up her ass, that is not reasonable, and she should ignore that review and move on to one that will give her constructive information.

As much as we want a completely objective scoring system, even TER has some bias cooked into their score models.  

 
Why?  Because they have a vested interest in mongers finding great providers and providers attracting "qualified" customers.   If too many of your selections of a provider on TER do not end well, you will stop using the site.  If too many mongers stop using the site, or if too many mongers from TER are problematic, providers will delist and rely on other resources.  

 
I'm not saying the TER score is useless!  As long as it is applied consistently to all provider reviews, it's still a good baseline that can be used to compare one provider to others.  What I am saying is that the user should give far more credence to the experiences defines by the reviewers' text than some calculated (and therefore possibly "gamed") score.  The score can be useful to filter the list of potential providers down to a reasonably-sized list. But then you need to read several reviews of each provider to get a good idea of what your experience will be like.  Of course, there are well-written reviews, and poorly-written or misleading reviews, and the reader should be prepared to validate the review writer as well.  

 
IOW: The score is the starting point, not the final decision criteria.  

 
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I haven't rechecked it for a while, but very unlikely they changed the formula.
To quote myself:

From my calculations, the formula is

Location*2 +
(Chemistry*2) *2 +
(performance+looks) /2*7
Divided by 10
So, location accounts for 1/10th of the rating, chemistry for 2/10th, and the average between looks and performance account for 7/10 of the rest.

 

 
If anyone calculates a certain profile differently and my formula doesn't work, let me know. Beware that sometimes new reviews might not show up as readable yet but their numeric values are already accounted for.

I am under 40

 
But unlikely I'll get any prize for solving a system of linear equations, because that's something people do in middle school or high school. Lol.

I wonder if there's a Totie Fields Medal?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totie_Fields

Posted By: team_rocket_qwerty
Re: I've calculated the formula back in 2021
I am under 40  

But unlikely I'll get any prize for solving a system of linear equations, because that's something people do in middle school or high school. Lol.

LOL

Yes, not to mention it seems the award is not even given to individuals (looking at the  linked wiki page).

But I actually think the insight was seeing the other two variables rather than crunching the numbers.

There’s one major factor that’s left out of ratings. Subjectivity  
Perhaps since the start of Woke culture anyone can be rated a 10 in looks. That unfortunately is objectively false. Allow me to elaborate.
Two women are walking down the street on the left we have a 30 year old with long flowing flaxen hair, a face like an angel, no need for makeup. She’s 5’7”, and has been doing Pilates for years and has lovely natural b-cups and a round beautiful behind. On the right we have a 55 year old her face shows, naturally, signs of aging including those wrinkles around her lips from smoking and makeup slathered on in attempt to cover those hard years.  5’3 and weights about 140lbs and perhaps she likes bread too much . And though she has a smaller torso she’s embellished it with 2 massive MM’s maybe DD or DDD cups that are harder than my dick if I got to see the beauty on the left naked.  Her lower half balloons out where she carries most of her weight except ironically (i’m the first person to use that word correctly in the history of TER) is flat as a pancake.
Now here we have two ladies that are polar opposites yet both can get a 10 in looks. I say BULLSHIT.  
However this is the reality since living in LA I see daily 300 pound women wearing hot pants and a bra top.

I suggest you find a few women you like and stick to them since going by reviews it’s often very very subjective mongers.  
Of course there are many women that deserve the high scores  but most often they are very expensive.  
TER is simply a crapshoot but with lower odds.

Being a SoCal guy like you, I have had the same experiences.  Curiously, I have found as I get older that I'm more tolerant of providers who are not perfect in the "looks" department, but still provide awesome service.  It happens slowly and subtly so you don't really notice it.  You roll over one day and realize the pretty, slender but not-perfect 40-year-old you just fucked is attractive to you, where you wouldn't have given her a second look when you were under 30.  OR, . . . . it might just be the endorphins from just having had sex.  Lol

 
Mongers will often agree on what constitutes good service, but the question of looks can be as different as the number of mongers you are asking.  As you say, find some regulars that you are attracted to, and keep them as regulars is the best way to keep your disappointments in this biz to a minimum.  As you also point out, it's often perplexing trying to understand how some reviewers can give high scores to certain women that you or I might never even consider seeing. However, there is a possibility that they may be thinking the same thing about women WE see.  Lol

Looks and performance 1-10 we know. Apply numeric value to the stars..... Total all 4 numbers and divide by 3 (NOT 4). That's the score per review. Then simply do the mean average for the ladies total score.  

I figured it out a couple years ago with ladies that basically had no more than 5 reviews. Shit gets trickier as review total increases.  

Guess you could think about the "stars" only carrying half the weight..... 5 is half of 10.

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