First has that hot newness to it but you really don't know each other's moves, 2nd gets that stuff sorted out, 3rd you just go at it like rabbits. I haven't done a 4th yet but I plan to soon...we'll see how it goes.
My experience is that the first date is the best more than 80% of the time. Things go south pretty quickly from there. And, to be clear, I am a guy who generally has a regular that I see for years on end. So it is not that I do not like the intimacy and familiarity that comes with time and repeated visits. But by the second or third visit with most ladies, it is over for me.
Sure, part of it is on me - that first date is exciting and sometime I overlook stuff that will quickly become a problem for me. But my observation is that is not most of it. Most ladies genuinely seem to try harder during that first date.
It can't be really chemistry, because that would not be there the first time and then suddenly disappear. It might be simple luck - even with ladies I see regularly, they, and I, have better days and worse days depending on all sorts of things, so maybe those good first dates were good days for both of us, and the bad date(s) that follow are not such good days?
Am I the only one who sees this? Do ladies really try harder on that first date for some reason (get a client to come back, a good review, or whatever) and then relax once we are hooked enough to return? Or is it mutual - they can ignore what a fat, old guy I am for one date, but it wears on them once they realize they could be stuck seeing me for a long time?
I have not made the great sacrifice for the sake of science to go back and see some ladies who did nothing for me at all on the first date in order to determine whether the second date could possibly be worse. So my observation is limited to times when the first date was quite good. I am curious, but not crazy.
The most useful thing, the thing I really want to figure out is what to look for in a first date that would indicate the second and subsequent dates will be better. I have some thoughts on that, but will share them later.
And no, I am not overthinking it.
Just wondering,
zig
Isn't that why so many of us are here?
Meeting a new Girl is Great if she treats you right. I like seeing the same Girl over and over. If she's Nice and Treats you right, why go see a new Girl? The Thrill is Great. But when I find a Girl I like I just keep seeing her and nobody else. Luckily I found my self a Repeat Girl.
I know so much about her Personal Life both Good and Bad beacuse she just tells me about her Life. I have Never Ever asked about anything in her Life. Hey we all need to talk to someone about things going on in our Lives. I guess she feels she can Trust me about telling me about her Life. She's So Sweet and Adorable. I could listen to her talk to me all day.
When I first saw my ATF she was Awesome. Treated me Great and very Polite. After about one month of seeing her she asked me to Drive her Home. From that point I never thought or expected I'd be close to her over a year later. She tells me alot about her Life, Good and Bad. After our Sessions sometimes I take her to Dinner and Shopping. She's really Sweet and Adorable. Sometimes it's difficult not to fall for some of these Girls.
I've seen former Providers who used their Money for Drugs. My current Provider uses the Money to support her kids. How do I know? Sometimes after our sessions, she asks me to drive to the Grocery Store to buy Milk, Cereal, and Diapers for her kids. She showed me pics of her kids. 2 boys and a girl. I'd love to meet her kids. But their Father may object to that. They're not Married if that's what you're thinking. And No he doesn't know what she does for Money.
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I will give credit where credit is due, that was funny.
And I have just the new provider for you. She wants to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn so she can buy her kids milk cereal. She doesnt lie I swear, she told me she doesnt
Can I be the new provider??? Lmfao!!! "Must like Asians" unlike the one the whom wrote that u copied & pasted!! Hahahahahaha 😆😆😆😆😆
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Are they covered???
Steph
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No, GG I am not referring to the quest for new quim. But rather the fact that pretty much every other reply has been to my subject and not my post.
God, I should know better with this board.
Yes, guys, nothing is better than the 30th time with a lady you like. But with most providers, even ones I like at first meeting, the first time is the best, and then it goes downhill. Not with all, and the ones where it keeps getting better are the keepers. But that is a small percentage even of the ladies when the first date is good.
Why in the world would I expect anyone to read my post? Silly me - too complex and time consuming.
Grrr,
zig
It's not in "this world" only!
xoxo,
Steph
God, I should know better with this board.
Yes, guys, nothing is better than the 30th time with a lady you like. But with most providers, even ones I like at first meeting, the first time is the best, and then it goes downhill. Not with all, and the ones where it keeps getting better are the keepers. But that is a small percentage even of the ladies when the first date is good.
Why in the world would I expect anyone to read my post? Silly me - too complex and time consuming.
Grrr,
zig
First has that hot newness to it but you really don't know each other's moves, 2nd gets that stuff sorted out, 3rd you just go at it like rabbits. I haven't done a 4th yet but I plan to soon...we'll see how it goes.
I feel much more at ease and comfortable, it seems that the ladies are as well. She already knows what I like and what buttons to push for me. Also, I enjoy role playing and I know for sure that really only works after you've developed an atmosphere of trust and comfort.
I personally haven't experienced the let down that you describe on repeat dates, guess I'be been lucky
Well said. If the first date clicks, then subsequent dates usually get better and better!
First dates were never the best in civvie life, and it seems to be going that way with providers, although my experience is still limited. There's only been two providers who were good enough in a respects for me to want to see them again. One was getting better and better until the fourth date, when things started going downhill and she was taking things for granted.
The second provider wasn't really good on the first date, but I saw the potential and went for a second, which was much better. I'll have to see how a third goes.
A lot of it is me. I've always been nervous the first time out with women. It takes time for me to get comfortable. That's why I keep searching for a provider I think will get better each time.
mentioned this in a post a few weeks ago. That's when chemistry really exists or the acting starts faltering. Luckily, there have been a couple times where more than 4 (and up to a dozen or more) have been great times. Definitely the exception to the rule.
The second provider wasn't really good on the first date, but I saw the potential and went for a second, which was much better. I'll have to see how a third goes.
A lot of it is me. I've always been nervous the first time out with women. It takes time for me to get comfortable. That's why I keep searching for a provider I think will get better each time.
Some start good, then fade, some start good and get better.
Some are yo-yos, it's hard to know what to expect next.
I'm trying to think if I ever had a poor start and gave her a second chance, but I can't think of any like that.
As the saying goes, you get one shot at making a first impression.
Maybe, if you have a GOOD experience on the first visit, your mind filters out ANY and ALL negative moments that might have occurred. Presumably, if you remembered the experience as nothing special, you wouldn't return.
But, if you remember the visit as good, you return with higher expectations. FALSE expectations, really, because you've mentally selected only the high points of the encounter. Then, it might be, that the second date cannot live up to HOW you remember the first, because your memory is, in a sense, a fiction you've created for yourself.
If, in the hours directly following the session, the provider communicates that she really enjoyed your visit, this might reinforce your sense that you'd had a better than average date.
We know that our memories are most often SOMEWHAT skewed, and this might be a case where a pleasurable moment winds up being remembered as more "fulfilling" or more "rewarding" than it actually was. Just a shot in the dark. Proving this hypothesis would be complicated and difficult.
Sure, part of it is on me - that first date is exciting and sometime I overlook stuff that will quickly become a problem for me. But my observation is that is not most of it. Most ladies genuinely seem to try harder during that first date.
It can't be really chemistry, because that would not be there the first time and then suddenly disappear. It might be simple luck - even with ladies I see regularly, they, and I, have better days and worse days depending on all sorts of things, so maybe those good first dates were good days for both of us, and the bad date(s) that follow are not such good days?
Am I the only one who sees this? Do ladies really try harder on that first date for some reason (get a client to come back, a good review, or whatever) and then relax once we are hooked enough to return? Or is it mutual - they can ignore what a fat, old guy I am for one date, but it wears on them once they realize they could be stuck seeing me for a long time?
I have not made the great sacrifice for the sake of science to go back and see some ladies who did nothing for me at all on the first date in order to determine whether the second date could possibly be worse. So my observation is limited to times when the first date was quite good. I am curious, but not crazy.
The most useful thing, the thing I really want to figure out is what to look for in a first date that would indicate the second and subsequent dates will be better. I have some thoughts on that, but will share them later.
And no, I am not overthinking it.
Just wondering,
zig
Because everytrhing is New. The key is to keep everything New after subsequent Sessions. As for me, everytime I see my Provider it's like seeing her for the first time all over again. It also helps if you like her. And I do like my Provider alot.
Most of my encounters are better with progressive visits. I actually try not to review a lady after the first visit if she is someone I am relatively certain I will see again. I have definitely had some 7-8 performances turn into 9-10 after a few visits but never revised the reviews. You have to think that from both parties there is a nervousness the first time you meet. Especially for the lady. Guys can see pictures, read reviews but the lady has little to go by. A few visits establishes a comfort zone and an ability to get to know what each other likes or what they perform best at.
I do my research, so the first date is generally good for a couple of reasons:
1. With the research, she generally looks pretty close to the pics, so on a visual basis, I am happy.
2. Usually there is something that was glossed over on the pics, plain face, cellulite, smelly toes (once), so I have to decide if that item is a deal breaker going forward.
3. Again, with research, technique is generally not out and out bad.
4. Its all new, so there is the adrenaline factor. This one here, barring she photoshopped the hell out of her pics, pretty much guarantees a good time. Based on that, I rarely have a disappointing first session.
On the first date I can step behind the curtain and sample the goods. There is a research aspect to it. However, looking back with the ladies I've repeated with, I don't see a "try harder" effect on the first date.
For second and subsequent dates to happen, I have to decide if the looks, chemistry and skills (not necessarily in equal amounts) are present in sufficient amounts to bear repeating. Mostly intuitive, but the method has a decent track record for me. Sound more calculating than it is. If you've been around, you'll know pretty easily when second date will work for you.
Repeating has two categories for me. First, she is long term material. Second, she is probably good for 3,4 or 5 visits.
It seems to me that if you are looking for some score card that gives you a go/no go decision, or input from others on how to think about the issue, you really are over thinking it.
Am I the only one who sees this? Do ladies really try harder on that first date for some reason (get a client to come back, a good review, or whatever) and then relax once we are hooked enough to return? Or is it mutual - they can ignore what a fat, old guy I am for one date, but it wears on them once they realize they could be stuck seeing me for a long time?
I have not made the great sacrifice for the sake of science to go back and see some ladies who did nothing for me at all on the first date in order to determine whether the second date could possibly be worse. So my observation is limited to times when the first date was quite good. I am curious, but not crazy.
The most useful thing, the thing I really want to figure out is what to look for in a first date that would indicate the second and subsequent dates will be better. I have some thoughts on that, but will share them later.
zig
I find #s 2-3 dates better... if we hit it off. Mostly, no reason to return...
or pattern that exists.
I love the excitement and thrill, sense of anticipation and newness of meeting a new woman. No doubt, that excitement adds to the first experience. I like to repeat as well, but generally reserve that for women with whom I feel greater chemistry... connection replaces that initial thrill in a sense. Not a date that has "gone south", but one that is simply different - as enjoyable in it's own way as that original date.
That being said, I do prefer to "repeat" less frequently with a very, very few women rather than become a "weekly regular" with a single woman. This just seems to help keep things "fresh" and avoid blurring of boundaries on either side.
I guess that if I continue to see a lady that I no longer feel the same attraction or connection to, that would be my own fault. So... not sure how I could have a repeat date that I was truly disappointed in unless it just happened to be one of those "off" days we all can have from time to time.
I feel fortunate to have met the women I have, those who have thrilled me once, or many times. Maybe I am an anomaly, but I can count the number of "bad" dates I have had on the fingers of one hand. Generally, those were all initial dates and not repeat dates
First dates can be fun--or not. They're great when they're great, and disappointing when my expectations are not met.
Second, third, and etc dates are usually much more fun, as we find out what works, and what doesn't.
I tend to repeat often with a small number of women. There are very few girls who have become regulars for me, whom I then sort of "fade away" from. But then again, I'm kind of picky with regard to what I'm looking for.
But that's just me. Other hobbyists like the variety thing. That's what's so great about this stuff--there's something and somebody for everyone.
date. In my nearly 12 years of P4P, I have found that the 3rd encounter and beyond are usually the best. You have met each other enough not to be nervous and if the trysts are spread out, say one every 6 or 8 weeks, then there is still a newness and not same ol same ol, meaning monotony.
The nerves are semi diffused for the guy, and we can just jump in and have fun. Over time, we get to know each other's likes and dislikes, body types, and develop a friendship in between. It's fun for me because I know if the guy is coming back he likes me enough to do so, which opens the door to explore and try new things.
Obviously, there have been times when this didn't happen due to one thing or the other, but if I feel I can't perform with the person for one reason or another, I cut it off
I have to say, I found one and stuck with her for a long time until the agency was with closed and I lost contact with her. I dropped out for a long time after that, but for a while, every date with her was better than the last. She got to know me better, and she actually had new things she wanted to try with me when she was in town. She was probably an extreme exception, but I wanted to weigh in here.
Guys use this service thrill of the new not to have a relationship so of course it isn't going to be great after a few meets.