Sugar babies don’t require deposits.  

Two different games.. Can’t compare like that in my humble opinion…

 
It’s like comparing one’s Batting Average with Passing percentage or QBR rating..   You are not going to get the level of success you get in monger world as you get in the SD world.  My data shows that my successs rate is 1% to 2%. So for every 100 girls I contact, I will sleep with 1 or may be 2.

 
Monger culture is much more efficient, but highly transactional (hence I always use it when I travel). Sugar culture is much more nuanced and takes a bit of a finesse to navigate.  I always liken it to ordering food from restaurant (fast food place or a high end steakhouse - doesn’t matter, it’s still a restaurant, v/s doing your own groceries and cooking yourself a nice meal)

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2 things:  1)  The Diabetes & Obesity epidemic in the USA.... so many young people are overweight and diabetic (primarily due to diet and especially the LACK of ANY exercise due to computers and video games), such that significant numbers of males 30 years and younger are not ABLE to have healthy sexual activity, or have less interest in sex to begin with...within this you have some of the infamous "Incel" demographic...

2) The complete OVER-saturation and proliferation of Pornography (and the intense, explicit intensity of the actual pornography)....young males in their teens when they first learn to masturbate are doing so while viewing NOT simply pictures of naked women, but gangbangs, blowbangs, cream pie videos and so forth....it's absurd.   They never develop any social /dating /interaction skills, and because porn is so readily accessible and available, they become perpetual chronic masturbators ("jerker-offers")...it's a terrible situation.

I myself recall my teen years....I grew up in the late 70s and early-mid 80s....PLAYBOY, PENTHOUSE and an occasional Hustler was all my generation had to scar our minds with....I cannot IMAGINE growing up in the last 25 years thru today, with all the unbelievably stimulating filth that is out there!   These kids stand ZERO chance of growing up into healthy balanced human beings....porn induces excessive masturbation, and excessive masturbation ingrains SELFISH tendencies, not just in sex but in everything.   I've seen it first hands with my young nieces and nephews....they lack empathy and a lot of other important qualities.

As the Maitre'd in Ferris Bueller said...."I weep for the future"....

The minimum replacement rate is 2.1.

Re: Maybe the 4B movement is catching on here..

China is not Korea, I know!

I met a Chinese woman socially, i.e., she wasn't a provider. She was a 45 y.o. divorced mother.

Eventually, we ended-up in the sack and boy was she ever clueless!! You might say "How could she be clueless when she had kids?" In conversation, I gathered that her husband had rolled-over on her, and shot his wad a few times and nothing more. So no attempt was made to please her. Talk about a blank slate, and a lot of fun!

This was a perfect opportunity to bring out the Magic Wand vibrator, which rocked her world! She used it half the night with my assistance. The next morning, I knew she was awake when I heard zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.