To the guys who see kgirls, I notice more and more reviews of kgirls, what is the fascination with kgirls? Is it because there donations are less? I would gladly pay 1000 to 1500 for a lady who have the curves and the ass and if she has some nice boobs that’s a added bonus,I have tried kgirls and they just don’t do it for me, it seems like it’s more reviews of kgirls then any other providers, please help me to understand what the big deal with kgirls are!
Also if you go by survey results, Asians females are preferred by most males of most other races.
Survey results? Like People magazine stuff? Academic scientific psychological studies have usually found that Asian faces are rated the most attractive. That has been attributed to the perception of symmetry. Eyes like this - - are in a straight line and the centerline has to be "found" by processing other cues (bridge of the nose; eyebrows; forehead). Slanted eyes like this \ / immediately draw or narrow the viewers attention to the centerline and that emphasizes the facial symmetry.
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With computers, researchers can take one face and alter its symmetry by minor distortions and changes. That eliminates a zillion other facial factors that can confound the older method of using photographs of different faces and trying to figure which single feature was the most important to the attractiveness rankings.
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http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/psychology-of-attractiveness-and-beauty-804247 -- I thought I posted about this more recently but I can't find those posts.
Also if you go by survey results, Asians females are preferred by most males of most other races.
Academic scientific psychological studies have usually found that Asian faces are rated the most attractive. That has been attributed to the perception of symmetry. Eyes like this - - are in a straight line and the centerline has to be "found" by processing other cues (bridge of the nose; eyebrows; forehead). Slanted eyes like this \ / immediately draw or narrow the viewers attention to the centerline and that emphasizes the facial symmetry.
There has been some truly scientific studies about the perception of beauty and, regardless the race and color of the subject and viewer, symmetry is the most important factor in what humans consider attractive. I'll check your link later, but I've never seen one of those studies that rated which race women were universally held as the most beautiful. I vote for Asians if anybody's keeping score, and I've *often* wondered why that is. My first girlfriend was first generation Korean. To this day, her breasts (they were Traci Lords clones), everything about them, put them in a tie for my top spot with another four or five pairs.
* Clearly, the inside corner of their eyes gives the perception of slantedness, but that's a small portion of an eye. I just took photos of a couple of Asian girls and drew a line across their eyes. Guess what? Their eyes, save for the inside corners, are *perfectly* straight -- long (wide) and straight. Maybe that's why we perceive them as über-symmetrical. Could be. In the end, I don't know.
what's the big deal with your $1000 curvy provider!
I would say, way overpriced, but it's what you like and want.
Just like I like and want to see Kgirls!
I am attracted to Asian women!
And it is a way better bang for the buck in the P4P world.
But that's not why I see them, I would pay whatever they ask!
It's because the donations are less. Badger48 is a K-monger and he admitted it in his post...twice. He said "your $1000 curvy provider" is "way overpriced." He also said K-girls are "a way better bang for the buck.
that's not why I see them!
I pay whatever the going rate is, with no complaints!
I used this before, twist much Chubby?
For non-Greek action, I don't think kgirls value can be beat, especially if you are to factor in bbfs availability becoming the standard. A lot of open menu items for a price that is generally lower than an independent escort, convenient and schedulable sometimes in under a minute.
Its no secret the kgirl scene is a high volume one compared to independent escorts.
So people generally see a lot more kgirls than higher priced providers. Plus the agencies encourage reviews. So I think that's why so many kgirl reviews on ter seem to overshadow others.
Thanks guys, price and performance make a lot of since, I guess a guy can play more with kgirls because of price.
Based on your question I would have thought you were in the LA market or maybe BA but looks like you're mostly in Denver.
Where are you looking at the reviews?
LA certainly does fit your description but over all, TER reviews don't. My area (DMV) has a large K population, and fairly large Asian population as well but still most reviews are not classed as Asian provider. Currently (as of this post) there were 12 reviews today for Asian and 27 total reviews. TER wide, 101 reviews today for Asian and 225 total reviews. LA on the other hand had 14 reviews as Asian and only 20 total reviews. (Counting reviews that don't say "yesterday" in the search listing. Searches were with Asian checked or nothing checked for ethnicity.)
While I think that some of the comments make sense I also think they are west coast centric as well. Both LA and BA have huge Asian population and I think that will skew things a bit as well. Kind of interesting on the pricing side, if I look at reviews for providers a 400 and less in my area, I find 12 reviews for Asian providers out of the 21 reviews submitted "today". If I look at providers over 400 I don't find any reviews for Asians "today" (see some for yesterday) but find 7 reviews in total. Not too surprising that price matters but that's not producing the type of skew one sees in LA numbers.
I’m looking all over the place, but mainly Los Angeles and Denver, Denver really sucks when it comes to kgirls, I just haven’t had any good experiences with kgirls in Denver.
I never thought Denver really had a good K scene, but that is looking from the outside.
Curious though, did you go to one of these agencies:
Girls Offices
http://www.girlsoffices.com/
Reviews₁
I Luv Hot #independent
http://www.iluvhot.net/
Reviews₁
or did you find something else?
I recognize Gloria from I Luv Hot and Ji Soo at Girls Offices. Both speak English well enough to have conversions. Of course, the pics could be stolen and the girls you actually might be someone other than who I saw.
Gloria is ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. She’s getting older, but her service is really good.
More like the BS market. Can smell a BS post 1,000 miles away.
Its a form of human trafficking. I did a post on Kgirls earlier this year & everyone who supports them went nuts. It is what it is. Those who pride themselves in booking only kgirls don't really care about women in general it is quick gratification. The majority of these kgirl providers are working off Visa’s to get to the USA. It is a form of pimping. Anyone who cares would want to hold a conversation. I am sure the price is right, but you are contributing to human trafficking. They are not 100% independent & are not doing this out of their own free will. Labor trafficking is real too! It is sad.
The link below will explain that ENGLISH is mandatory in Korean schools, starting in primary school, and that 30% of classes are taught in English by the time they go to college. The Kgirls that come for 90 days TO TEST THE MARKET sometimes have limited English because they have been out of school for 5-10 years and didn't get the chance to use it after graduation, but they re-learn very quickly when being in the US and using it every day with customers. Once they decide to stay here to work, their English gets better very quickly. Most even know the difference between "your" and "you're" which many educated in the US get wrong daily.
Kgirls work UNSUPERVISED when they want, and where they want. This is not trafficking. The agency system is no different than US sex workers using an agency for screening and booking. In my 14 years seeing Kgirls, I have never seen a Kgirl that was trafficked. There have been Chinese & Thai girls trafficked years ago, and Hispanic girls trafficked more recently, but not Korean girls. There are telltale signs to trafficking for these other nationalities, and when you see them, you just turn around and walk out, then report it if you want. Providers have been trumpeting the FALSE narrative for years that Kgirls are trafficked because the Kgirls are taking away their customers by offering better service at a lower price. They are 100% independent and the agency has no control over them. They just use the agency for booking and sometimes short-term incall rental for which they pay a fee. When was the last time you heard of a trafficked girl who was allowed to collect the money from customers and hold it until the end of the week, which is the only time Kgirls see anyone from the agency that is booking them? Trafficked girls have an on-site manager who collects the money, which the girls never touch. Your ignorance if steeped in bias and racism and is not a good look on you. I'm shocked to hear this coming from you.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
Of them any I have seen over the past 10+ years all of them spoke enough English to get around, go shopping, order a meal or tell someone to stop doing X if they don't like it. Many are uncomfortable speaking English as it's a difficult language but Koreans are taught English in primary school for, IIRC, at least 6 years.
The Korean women working here do not to be trafficked in ANY form at all. They move around freely. They can set their own schedules within reason. They can take a day off if they are tired or feeling sick. They keep their passport -- if they are even traveling with it as more than a few are actually permanent residence in the USA. You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Last, if you actually have ANY proof of some woman being trafficked and have not reported that to both the local LE and to TER they you are the one supporting such activities. If you don't have such evidence quit with the rumor mongoring.
I went back to read your old post that you mentioned and all the replies.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/korg-1001681?frmSearch=1#1001681
Very interesting to see that you post this again
Sadly, she has an agenda.
One of my favorite NYC K-girls was trafficked to the US by -- wait for it -- her own family!!!
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Her father worked for a big Korean company and he and his family were transferred to the NY offices for several years. This girl went to US schools for around (I don't know the exact number) 4 - 6 years and graduated from US high school.
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When her father and family returned to Korea, she chose to stay in the US. Her English was OK but still accented. She was BEAUTIFUL but had a bunch of unflattering tattoos, not so much art work as gang or punk symbols. E.g., she had sloppy writing on her knuckles (I can't remember what it said, but it was in the punk-ish gang-ish "F U C K" "Y O U" category as well as some other tats.) I guess she was her family's wild child and probably did NOT go on to get a job with Samsung, Hyundai, or Kia.
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http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/detail/cherrydd-review-by-impposter-1009582
I saw her several times after that initial visit and "6" review and things improved vastly. She wasn't my ATF but she was up there. She spent some time working in Hawaii as Lucky but she trafficked herself there on a jet on her own.
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There are too many Cherry-s and I think that reviews and Profiles have been totally jumbled up. I don't think that my 2010 Cherry is the current 2023 CherryDD ... but I hope to find out!
Its a form of human trafficking. I did a post on Kgirls earlier this year & everyone who supports them went nuts. It is what it is. Those who pride themselves in booking only kgirls don't really care about women in general it is quick gratification. The majority of these kgirl providers are working off Visa’s to get to the USA. It is a form of pimping. Anyone who cares would want to hold a conversation. I am sure the price is right, but you are contributing to human trafficking. They are not 100% independent & are not doing this out of their own free will. Labor trafficking is real too! It is sad.
That CherryDD is definitely NOT your Cherry!
That CherryDD is my Ms Jealous LOL The photos are her but photoshopped to add extra weight and height…
I got to know her very well and she works independently for whichever agency she chooses that has the highest volume of guests. Travels across the US. No sign of trafficking with her at all. Just don’t mention you see other providers with her and you’re all good!
So if they don't speak English, it must be human trafficking?
Sound logic, Bia.
"Those who pride themselves in booking only kgirls don't really care about women in general it is quick gratification"
This is even more egregious of a statement. This whole p4p industry is instant gratification, including you as a provider. I don't go into sessions wanting to "spend time" with providers. I don't use euphemisms. I'm there to fuck (and also evaluate how good of a fuck it is for websites like this). It doesn't matter kgirl or indie. Cgirl or Latina house girl. Or a sw.
Labeling kgirls as trafficked is just untrue. You don't know how it works, it seems you don't want to know it, and you label a whole sector of workers as trafficked. Come on now.
this is one of your most lucid and articulate posts. I agree with each of your points. Kudos.
Just a note about visas. South Korea is one or the 40 or so countries in the US visa waiver program, so South Koreans can visit the US for 90 days without a visa.
seen a Kgirl that was trafficked?
Or ANYONE in P4P that was trafficked?
If you did, did you do anything to help them?
Sounds like you don't like pimps, ever turn one in or did you just figure it's not MY problem!
one's built-up stock for potential Ms TER plummets.
Unless one is the leading expert on a topic, they should probably stop with the generalizations.
Cap
I know that you are in the know and know it all. Can you prove this or is it just more bullshit you claim to know.
Good point. I wonder how many KGirls she sessioned with to reach this conclusion? I’m guessing none.
Thanks for posting. Make it a great day! Xoxo
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You should probably be focusing on ladies in the Latin/Hispanic and the South American ethnic groups.
And my guess is that the business model hasn't changed all that much. It just seems to be alittle more stricter then before but after that whole LA CityVibe thing I get it.
But the service was really pretty good, be it scripted. It was a fun one hour hit and run thing escape. Price was 250 at that time, which held for awhile so the value was there. The girls were good looking, I had a few 6's but alot more 7,8,9's. My buddy and I were in with the Mamasan, to the point that we would get a heads up with the new ladies. And their English was borderline to non existent. And it seems like session to value is still the same as before. So I can see how they have their groupies.
It was mentioned that trafficking may be involved.....I kinda tend to agree with that, to a point. It's not cloak and dagger shit in the middle of the night where they're hauled off in the early AM.
This scene seems to fills a need, always has.
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cool46 I agree, I don't see the appeal of the KGIRLS they are mostly little twig girls if I want a spinner I'll buy an inflatable.
Give me those meaty latina curves any day. The problem I'm seeing post-COVID though is most of the Latina providers are really heavy - in almost all cases far heavier than their pics. Yet... the prices are going up along with their weight! What gives with these GIGANTIC ASSES? A little cushion is fantastic but it's really getting out of hand. If a woman is going to charge big money to be with her and she calls herself high-end why does she not care enough about her body to eat right and go to the gym and make her body more attractive?
I don't mind paying a premium price for a premium experience. But so far I've not had any premium priced girl worth the freight. On many of the reviews I'm reading most all of them now state '9-10 MODEL MATERIAL/FORGOT IT WAS A SERVICE' but the actual experience isn't anywhere near that.
I'm continuing my search but I have to say the last 4 providers I've seen post-COVID have not been all that great, at least not for the prices charged. I am by no means cheap but if I am going to pay $1000-$1500 for 90 mins I want it to be an AMAZING time and thus far I'm afraid it has not been and the quality of the body has just not been there.
Perhaps we are just seeing a decline in everything since COVID. I hope things get back to where they were but I am not holding my breath.
2 thumbs up! I agree with everything you said
Queen Bia is right, at least with the kgirls in Denver, I can’t communicate with most of them, which is another big turn off, and it has been a few I seen where it was another female,older female in the room and she took the money and directed the other girl on what to do!
Are you talking about AMPs?
Ethnicity/Asian you come up with reviews of the girls who are agency affiliated. The agency's aren't based in Denver. Their rate are on par with say, LA, Vegas and they do promote the girls as Korean..Check out a few of the reviews of any of the girls. notice how they move around....interesting, huh? So I don't think he's talking about AMP.
Somehow, if I wanted to work in the USA, LA, SF, NY, Seattle, Miami and Vegas is where I'd want to go...Denver just isn't on my city to visit...jus sayin
We don't really know who the guy is really talking about. He starts out asking why it seems so many seem to seek K-Girls, based on more reviews for them than others. He doesn't really narrow down just how he came to the conclusion but we can assume that is what he was seeing.
He admitted that he doesn't get the attraction and would prefer to spend, even at higher rates, on other types of women. So I'm not sure he is someone we should take as some expert on K-girls, or Asian providers in general for that matter. But he does want to support Bia's claim that most cannot really speak English. That does seem to fly in the face of what many of us experience with K-girls at the AAMPs. So speculating cool46's experience indicating most not speak English might be due to seeing AMP girls that are Korean (or just Asian and not distinguishing) and thinking that is the same as seeing a K-girl.
Yes, he is. He’s confusing AMP where there’s a mamasan who takes the money and puts you in a room where a lady joins you, with a KAgency/AAMP where the ladies work from condos, apartments and/or houses, there’s no management on site, and you pick your companion. Very different experience. I’ve heard of many AMP/massage parlors where the ladies, usually Chinese, are trafficked. I’ve never heard or experienced that with a KAgency/AAMP.
going to massage parlors (AMP) rather than the Kgirl escort setup which is usually in a 2-bedroom, 2-bath apartment (to accommodate two girls seeing customers) in a large, modern apartment complex. They are two completely different animals. There is NEVER a "manager" in the standard Kgirls escort incalls, but there is always a manager in a massage parlor set up, taking the money, even if they are offering full service beyond the massage
One other point, Cool, I can't remember ever hearing of the Kgirl apartment business model being used in Denver, but massage parlors are everywhere, and many of the Asian places (whether Chinese, Thai, Viet, or Korean) have started peddling FS when there is a dearth of Asian escorts in the area, so part of the problem may be that it's Denver, so you might want to take a vacation somewhere that has the Kgirl business model, but that will also include you passing the screening they use. You will find the apartment Kgirls much more fluent in English because many have worked in the Salons of Seoul that cater to visiting American businessmen.
He already said he doesn't get the fascination with Kgirls!
He sounds like he doesn't like them!
This is for you cool, how many languages does your $1000 + provider speak?
Most of the Kgirls I've met speak a minimum of two and some know three or four and English is always one of them!
As noted elsewhere in this thread, Denver does have an agency now, Girls Offices. It operates as a AAMP, exactly as you describe.
When I'm traveling on business, my first choice is a local Kgirl agency if they have one, but if none, I will see a local indie. Next time in Denver, I will give them a try. Thanks for the info.
Why pay those prices for an agency that runs like an AMP. But hey, It's Denver...Guys will do what guys do
not AMP, and $360 is not out of line when there is no competition. Unlike SoCal, its a sellers market when there is only one legit agency. The top girls in LA are now averaging $340 for GFE, $100 more for those that offer PSE. Prices are no longer one-size-fits-all at agencies. They have girls at varying prices. Prices would be even higher in LA if there was only one or two agencies. The Denver price still beats indies.
After the Kgirls cleared out of Seattle after the big bust there, when they started to come back a few years later, the going Kgirl rate was $400 for GFE when there was only one agency. Prices are down now to $350 because there are multiple agencies and the supply has caught back up with the demand.
Hpy, I think you're missing the whole discussion on the AAMP and AMP thing. Cool, the OP, doesn't have a review of any Asians going back 5 years (start of 2018). His assessment of K-girls/Asian providers is not based on seeing agency girls in Denver and the other Denver reviews don't seem particularly relevant for trying to understand where he came to his views.
I don't think anyone has suggested that the agency that is in Denver is run like and AMP -- in fact given who is touring there it's probably doubly sure that is not the case.
Getting a feel of the audience here...But I got it
not an AAMP!
They didn't speak English, huh?
Can you detect when someone is speaking Chinese?
a civvie Chinese girlfriend for a year. Her English got pretty good. She only spoke Chinese to me when she was pissed, so I knew she was swearing at me. Lol
Thanks CDL , I guess I do have kgirls and massage parlors (AMP) girls mixed up, I thought they was all the same, the ones I have seen wasn’t in no 2-bed 2- bathrooms apartment
that pandarus ID'd above. If they are like most Kgirl AAMPs, you might be amazed at what you get for the price. Good luck.
Thanks, CDL and Pandarus I will and I will write a review to let everyone know about my experience.
"What's the fascination with white girls?"
For the players here who see lots of K-girls, that might be a perfectly legit question. But I don't recall ever seeing that question asked here.
To me, asking the question about K-girls in itself suggests that the question is really along the lines of "Why are you deviating from the 'norm'?", if the norm is the classic, Western, myopic view of what is expected behavior and standards. Built into the question is an inference that seeing non-white providers is unusual, strange, requiring explanation and even justification. Why?
As a rule, I say fuck who you want to fuck. And you don't have to explain to me why you made a "non-normal" choice.
Who's to say what's normal?
A lot of people just like what they like, if my guess is right, you would be included in that too.
Any special reason you spelled ask as aks?
I have seen plenty of them when they were a fantastic option - lower donation , better service and amazing looks many were like models, conversed well, and I developed offline friendships with some of them too
Last couple y it’s been one bait and switch after another - girls are decidedly older, subpar in looks with fake pictures and donation has gone up. Not to mention it’s very hard to find those that don’t do bbfs (too risky for me, i know I will invite some blowback from ppl here but everyone has their preferences)
Now you could say it’s just a rant as everything was better and cheaper say 5y ago and maybe you are right - but I just don’t want to settle. I would rather pay up and see someone worthwhile for less frequency or sugar date (another great option) than get disappointed a dozen times just for the heck of it
I agree. I will also add here it's not just KGIRLS that have been delivering disappointing quality post-COVID. I've seen provider after provider since the shutdown and almost all are a far cry from their posted pics; a lot of overweight girls [even in their 20's - c'mon girls - you are selling your bodies why let them go?] and an overall lack of service for the higher prices being charged. It's just not worth it to me anymore. I'm going to explore sugaring at least there I don't have to be subjected to the hit and miss and lose $1000 each time situation.
better-looking Kgirls in SoCal, which seems to be where you are located, are still GFE service only, and don't offer BBFS. The rates are only higher if the service is better. Kgirls are free to set their own prices now, and they can't sustain a certain price level unless the service level supports it, so if you see veteran girls with over a hundred reviews, a good TER review average, at prices between $340 and $360, it's still an excellent value compared to indies. Most of these girls are lower volume than the average-looking cheaper girls at the $280 to $300 range, so you get an energetic session at a great price.
For a proper model like k girl in her 20s - which you may not believe, but I got a chance to see some of those in mid to late 2010s
Hell I am All for paying even 400+ if I need to - but pls for gods sake show me real pics and be atleast young enough and decent enough . I am not looking to get with 40y olds - I can do that in vanilla already
Do you remember bulma when she first started ? Where have girls like that all disappeared
Kgirls in their 20's here is because that is the age that is in demand for sex workers in Seoul. Most of the girls we get here are former salon girls, who work in clubs pimping liquor at inflated prices to visiting businessmen, and then they will go to a hotel for sex with one of the guys they hosted that night when their shift is over, or they can pay the club owner a commission to let her leave right away.
However, these girls are furloughed out due to age about 30 years old, so that's when they come to the US to work. Asian (particularly Japanese) businessmen like then young, so a hot young girl can charge the equivalent of $1000 a night with a guy who is drunk who may or may not even be able to get it up. The guys usually pass out in the hotel room, and she takes a taxi directly home. It's an easy life, so no point in leaving until they are around 30 and are no longer being sought after by club patrons. 90% of the Kgirls are in the 30-45 year age bracket regardless of what their ad or TER profile says. We occasionally get girls who are in their mid-20's but they are not particularly attractive, and most younger customers want them BOTH young and beautiful. They're asking for a unicorn. The reality is that most Kgirls can pass for 5-10 years younger than they really are, so many American customers BELIEVE they are with a 25 year old even if they're not. Dim lighting and professional makeup makes it work.
Those are what I'm seeing more and more, everywhere. And some are even stealing IG models pictures and putting them on their sites. Isn't there honor among thieves? I wonder how the K-Boys put up with this? But they'll defend it to no ends.
Had a funny incident happen today...young lady I was planning to see. Booker was hee hawing about this and that..Then out of nowhere, I saw on another discussion board that the pictures were from an IG account, stolen. Check them out and yup.....and this isn't the first time I've seen this being done.
And you say go back 5 years or so, shit go back 15 years and this scene it, didn't have all the nonsense you have now.
So I get you, but they do have their followers
IMO got much worse during COVID and has remained that way since. At this point it seems to be an unfortunate reality of the KGirl scene, especially here in Vegas.
seeing Kgirls, the SOP was not to alter the faces, just blur them out, and you had much less grousing about it from the customers. Everyone knew it was for the girls' safety, but now that they are using software to ALTER faces, there are many guys who have a problem with this because they have only been her a few years, having entered the market AFTER the time period where blurring was standard. The veterans were around for the blurring, so it's no big deal that faces are altered for the same security reasons.
quite a while, past five years for sure.
Just search some older posts where guys are bitching about pics.
I mentioned this on another thread a while back, I also read it on another site's old threads.
There are complaints now and they go back years!
Nothing to put up with or defend, IMO, just learn how to work with the way the system is at this time.
I'm sure it will change down the road, but for better or worse who's to say.
I say just do your research, don't get caught up in any hype or FOMO and when you find your gem stay with her!
Yeah, you will have some sessions where looks or service won't be what you want/need/expect, but if you check them out and don't jump the gun, they shouldn't be totally fucked up!
All common sense to me.
I took a break because I was frustrated. Had fun w sugar dating for a bit. Then had a lapse in that. Thought it’s been a while why not give it a shot
Texted a booker I thought was reliable , saw good reviews and made sure i dotted the i s and crossed the t s .
Reviews are also total bs now - I don’t know who these mongers raving about it are . Maybe they are ppl so desperate for any intimacy that they are gushing over plain Jane and below average women
The door opens - yes it is a similar ish looking girl but w bad teeth and droopy breasts - and she was supposed to be 26yo per booker - but most likely she was late 30s to 40
I am done w this sht - don’t have patience or the energy anymore - if I had to put in that much effort vetting I’d rather spend it on trying to find a decent sugar baby
I've been tooting that horn for years on here, and each time I reported a shitty practice people would seek to downplay or discrefit my opinion. I then started broadcasting posts people being frustrated, fucked over and so forth so they are more visible. Guess what? The capt save a hoe brigade is working hard overtime. And I guess it's not desirable for the biz to have a lot of people talk about various real issues so they must be swept under a rug.
Than same brigade also thinks giving a girl low review scores on a site where by rules 5 is an average, is "bashing". It's hilarious.
Now I don't mince words and I don't compromise with liars, so they may have an issue with the form in which I express these sentiments, but the fact is the worse quality, the bad integrity and focus on money over custom satisfaction is just as prevalent in kgirl world as non-kgirl escort world.
I'm honestly surprised you weren't chastised by someone who says fake IG pics is not bait and switch. Because if I made the post you just made I would definitely get that retort.
And I like kgirls o
In general. I just don't stand for and never will stand for any lie to a client, and will always call lie a lie. Publicly and openly.
Oh well. Not the first time people who make money off lies get mad when someone says they make money off lies.
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If Rocket knew how to parse an English sentence, he would have realized that Happy identified three distinct categories
So no Rocket, you’re wrong about
And why bring it up again when you’ve got an entire thread dedicated to “stolen/photoshopped pics = bait and switch”??? Must you derail any and every conversation that deals with KGirls to suit your own silly personal crusade?
What crusade? What am I derailing?
I replied to a post that was lamenting the quality of kgirls. There is nothing offtopic here. I simply highlighted yet another person unhappy with how things are.
I simply said how sensitive the capt save a hoe brigade is for kgirls and kgirl agencies. You criticize something and it's like a bat signal for these dudes.
I get it tho, you can't accuse another dude of being my imagination or whatnot, so you have to call for thread derailment.
Could you translate that into English please?
Well, everyone makes their own choices but for some reason some like to blame other for various things. I'm probably in your K-boy bucket (at least according to some) but I don't really put up with what occurs. THe agencies I've dealt with really don't use fake picks, overly old pics or overly photoshopped pic in my view. When I show up the girl looks very much like the one in the picture so I'm not surprised or disappointed.
I do get that some of the places are less forthcoming with their ads. MP was one in my area, and after 5 visits with only one really satisfying session -- girl was what I expected and was "engaged" in the session -- I stopped going there. Still some think the agencies (MP split into two groups) are good and seem happy using them. Their choice obviously.
Given that the K-Agencies are nearly always seen as difficult to get access to as a new customer I have my doubts that the agency is surviving off the one time, never seen before or after client that was fooled into spending their money. Seems like the regulars are spending their money with their eyes wide open. Again, some might not do that and wonder why others do but that is pretty common in most of our day-to-day life.
I find it odd that some want to keep complaining about these bad agencies (rather than just noting specific new cases that don't seem to have been recognized just yet) while at the same time admitting that they keep spending their money at these vary same agencies.
I get that when someone makes the statements as you have, given that you're not spending your money in these places, it's a fair question to ask why others are doing it. It is also fair to say that it doesn't make much sense to you but we all get to make our own choices about how were spend our money and what we think works for each of us. But those that want to keep calling things our while still spending their money at these places have absolutely no grounds for calling out anyone else.
"I find it odd that some want to keep complaining about these bad agencies (rather than just noting specific new cases that don't seem to have been recognized just yet) while at the same time admitting that they keep spending their money at these vary same agencies. "
Do you also find it odd that someone would complain about police transgressions while continuing to pay taxes that support police and living in this country that employs police as a protective mechanism?
Definitely the price. Not to mention most have an 'aim to please' attitude. Wait for honest feedback on looks vs the pics posted and you should be ok.
It’s probably been said but the answer is SERVICE. I like you used to prefer big tits and ass, still do. But the problem with those 1000 providers you mention is they don’t normally provide a fraction of the level of service you get from Kgirls. They pale in comparison. Now I almost exclusively session with Kgirls. And every now and then I run into one with the body type I prefer; heaven.
and right now I'm sort of into again, tho my interest is starting to want despite more kgirls showing an interest in seeing me. There are definitely some major pluses in going the kgirl route, tho as noted it's not for everyone.
I've hobbied in parts of Canada and USA, Asians are just generally cheaper and provide best bang for buck. Although, that being said, in Canada their pricing is on par with Caucasians now, so my point isn't valid over there lol.
But generally speaking, from my experience, Koreans and Japanese have been the most servicing oriented providers. I literally get treated like a king in comparison to seeing other ethnicities. Also, Asians generally have a routine which I like. What I also noticed in the US in comparison to Canada, are extra services being more openly available to those wanting to partake when seeing an Asian. Let's not be ignorant of this fact either. This will bring in more clients.
But to each their own.
And huge bias, but I think Koreans are just sexy overall.
I contacted girls offices in Denver but never heard back from them, so I just might have to make a trip to Los Angeles to experience the kgirls scene, I will have to make sure they will see me first, I just want to see what the big deal is with kgirls, I know you get more bang for your money, but if I make a trip to Los Angeles with all the expense on top of what I’m paying a kgirl, am I really getting more bang for my money? And not to mention what I love in a provider as far as looks.