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HIV and BBBJ/BBBJTC
joe22 5046 reads
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Please don't be irritated by this inquiry but are provider/hobbists concerned about disease with an unprotected BJ?  

Please tell me if it is ok because I obviously would love it!

Thanks and thanks for TER!

Please use the "find message" function to review previous threads on this subject.

-Hoot.



-- Modified on 8/19/2002 3:45:25 PM

The internet is full of information. The TER discussion board is also filled with information on the subject, as well as misinformation.

Do your own homework. Otherwise, all you'll get are opinions from people who may or may not know as little about the subject as you.

BBBJ is fine. Go ahead.

-- Modified on 8/19/2002 4:13:43 PM

Mathesar3844 reads

saying that "BBBJ is fine" may be a little stronger than the data supports.

I will quote from the beginning of the article "Promoting Condoms for Oral Sex: Impact on Pharyngeal Gonorrhea Among Female Brothel-Based Sex Workers", Mee Lian Wong, MPH, MBBS, Roy K.W. Chan, FRCP, MBBS, and David Koh, MBBS, MSc(OM), PHD in the June 2002 issue of Sexually Transmitted Diseases, pages 311-318.

Background: Low condom use for oral sex among female brothel-based sex workers in Singapore has led to a rise in pharyngeal gonorrhea.

Goal: The goal of the study was to evaluate a program promoting the use of condoms for oral sex.

Study Design: We used the time-series design to compare condom use and pharyngeal gonorrhea trends before and after program intervention in 1996 and the pretest-posttest matched control group design to determine the impact of brothel interventions on sex workers.

Results: Consistent oral condom use increased significantly from 42.2% in 1996 to 89.9% in 2000, with a corresponding decline in pharyngeal gonorrhea (in comparison with no significant changes before intervention). Among sex workers in brothels with intervention there was a 10.8% absolute increase in condom use, compared with an 11.7% decrease in condom use in the control group. The gonorrhea incidence rate was also significantly much lower in the intervention group than in the control group (adjusted risk ratio: 0.22: 95% CI: 0.06 -- 0.78).

Conclusion: The intervention increased oral condom use, with a decline in the incidence of pharyngeal gonorrhea.

EVIDENCE OF HIV TRANSMISSION BY ORAL SEX has become clearer. Available data on homosexuals show that the adjusted relative risk of HIV from receptive oral-penile intercourse has increased by 1.1 to 3.0 times. The risk of unprotected oral sex in transmitting other viral and bacterial sexually transmitted disease (STDs) is more definitive; it significantly increased the risk of contracting oral human papillomavirus by 3.7 times. Our earlier prospective study of female brothel-based sex workers in Singapore found that unprotected oral sex increased their risk of acquiring pharyngeal gonorrhea from their clients by 17 times (95% CI: 8.0 -- 36.5).

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(I'll spare you all the rest of the article.)

So, BBBJ is fine -- as long as your partner isn't infected with anything (but then you could say the same about BBFS).

The article states that a condom reduces the risk that a lady will contract gonorrhea from a single act of oral sex (if her male partner is infected) by a factor of 17. That is significant in my opinion.

But that's just my opinion and what do I know.


-- Modified on 8/21/2002 11:40:29 PM

joe - the other guys who have answered you so far are 100% right - this question comes up every two minutes, and you get lots of opinion and lots of heated posts. why not do some actual medical research? check the link below for q&a with dr ryan kull of columbia university. or just go to your favorite search engine and type in "hiv", "hepatitis", "herpes", "std", "safe sex", etc, etc, etc.

my two cents: can you get hiv from receiving a bbbj? well, there is NO documented case of it ever happening. theoretically, can you? yes, if you have open sores on your penis and the provider is infected and has a high viral load at that moment and she (or he) has a mouthful of blood and that blood has time to be absorbed into your system and your own immune system is weakened.... in other words, probably not. can the provider contract hiv in the same situation? theoretically, yes, if you are infected, with a high viral load, and you cum in her mouth, and she holds it there for a while, and she has open sores in her mouth, and her immune systm is down. truth? her risk is higher than yours, but it's still very low.

fyi...you can go back to an a message you have previously posted and use the "edit" button to make changes, such as adding a link.

-Hoot.

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