I don't expect anyone to risk outing themselves by identifying an obscure profession or job, but judging from the occasional exchange on here, I bet there are some learned bastards engaging in our little diversion.
Lawyers? Of course.Finance majors? Have to be.
Engineers? Without a doubt.
Doctors? Could be.
Mathematians/accountants? Seems likely.
Self-made business person/entrepreneur? Every provider here who's running a successful business (along with GaGambler) qualifies. Not meaning to leave out any profession that doesn't require a degree. Quite the contary--I'm simply reflecting on the fact that the men and women here mostly do NOT represent the stereotypes of knuckle-dragging Johns and dimwitted Hos that people outside P4P would like to believe. My random ruminating for today.
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That's actually a very nice compliment to the general community helixir, well said....
Speaking only for myself growing up a nerd, and a disabled one at that, people who studied hard and excelled academically during the first 25-30 years of their life to attain some sort of professional career that offers financial security, it's probably the case that we are now making up for lost time/opportunities when we were young. Just my 7 cents....
Growing up I was a complete bad boy. I did meh in school when I sort of tried. I was more interested in the fast life. I experienced way more than the average person before I turned legal drinking age, 21.
But then shockingly a light bulb went off. I stumbled my way into a local community college. I nerded up, though in college being smart and being cool didn’t entirely have to be separate. Anyway, I switched the bad boy act and became a straight A student. Turned my community college experience into getting into a top 30 4 year college. Never looked back.
Looking back, more kids I hung out with in junior high school OD’ed on drugs than got college degrees. I feel blessed to have made it out. Being a bad boy isn’t as cool as it seems.
I certainly wouldn't ever consider myself a "smart" motherf#%/er, by any means. I did however, surround myself with a team of smart "motherf#%/ers", and together we built a couple of bang-up businesses with a very clearly defined exit strategy. When the time came, we pulled the trigger and sold both businesses to a Fortune 500 company. The cornerstone of my skill set is knowing what my weaknesses are, surrounding myself with people that excel at what I'm not good at, then giving them the manageerial freedom to take their teams where we collectively want to go.
The stereotypical "knuckle-dragging Johns and dimwitted Hos", don't tend to fare very well on the boards within TER. I agree that the caliber and wherewithall of the folks that frequent these parts is far above average when it comes to knowing a thing or two about a thing or two. Most people outside of P4P would be absolutely stunned if they knew who was actually here and enjoying the delights of this hobby that we enjoy.
Is well taken.
In high school I had a part time job and my co-workers were the party animals who always had the coolest clothes, were at the best parties, smoked weed in between classes, and occasionally knocked up some teenage girl. Silly me, I studied, got into a good school, and went on to a rewarding professional career. Last I saw any of those guys, they were hanging out on the corner, no capital to their names, trading bullshit stories about how cool they used to be.
I got to where I am on the sacrifices of my parents and I am eternally grateful to them both. I agree that there are some very intelligent people who post here, both guys and girls.
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I have learned quite a life lesson since when I first started in p4p though. I just assumed providers were drugged out addicts that never finished high school before I entered. I was so ignorant as to the facts. Most of the women I have met over the years have either more advanced degrees than I possess or are clearly more intelligent than I am. That was something I just wasnt prepared for but it was a great surprise.
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Society at large, and movies, TV shows, books etc all had women getting into sex work for all the wrong reasons i.e. they had no other options or they were coerced into it. We all know for a fact there is a certain percentage of SWs where that is certainly true as women being trafficked is a real thing and a horrible condition.
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I am just glad that so many SWs chose this profession as either their primary work or a side hustle as I am better on account of it for their choice to enter this lifestyle.
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Great post! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it. 
Zeel, YesYes36, and Robert......all of you said some very insightful, and very true things in your replies to the original poster.....Giving credit to your parents was very nice Robert, I agree 100%....I was blessed with 2 loving parents who had to scramble real fast in raising me when they found out I was born with a congenital bone disease. They not only refused to coddle me and tell me I was "special", the mainstreamed me from day 1 and pushed me to succeed. They are well into their 80s now, and it is my turn to take care of them, which I now do with my 2 siblings.
YesYes36, it is a credit to your management skills (which are often the result of life experience and not formal education) that you are able to achieve success through the efforts of others.....my number one management principle: "make people feel good about themselves and make them feel valued"....they will move mountains for you as their manager if you do this.
Zeel, well done on finding your way after your youthful adventures.....you could teach a lot of grownups who never "grew up" a thing or two on how to become successful. What university did you finally attend after community college (if you don't mind sharing)....
And whoever said that the women on here are whip smart, you are spot on in that assessment. As I have been searching and communicating with some of the providers here, I have learned that most appear to have 4 year college degrees and some well beyond that.
I'm still partial to nurses though.....(where's the damn smiley icon with sunglasses when you need it...!
I know three nurses who are providers. Two are RNs and one is a NP. I guess they would be ideal for you lol.
About 20 years ago there was a full-time nurse here in LA who provided on occasion. One of the smartest, sweetest, most cheerful and upbeat people I've ever come across, inside or outside of P4P.
Thanks Holy, I was actually thinking of starting a distinct individual thread on the topic of NURSES & Healthcare Professionals who are providers....I may do so in the near future so I don't want to say too much now other than I thank you for your endorsement, and sharing what you did. Because of my congenital ("From Birth") disability, I grew up in hospitals ....(my first 18 years of life, I spent about 1/3 of that time TOTAL in Shriner's Hospital For Children.....when I say total I mean not consecutive, but the combined duration of all my stays and admissions into the Hospital....2 months here, 3 weeks there, 5 weeks here, etc. add them all up and by the time I went off to College I had spent a third of my life in hospitals; nurses were always my primary reference point, and influences, growing up.....the stories and experiences I have are eclectic and numerous, about how truly special nurses are; and if one of them happens to be a provider......well then, you understand my feelings & views. More to follow in the near future....)
I should also add that I've seen a veterinarian too.
Two of the nurses I've seen work full-time in nursing. The third is a full-time provider but she keeps her license current, which is usually pretty easy.
I have known two providers who were dental hygienists. Perhaps health care workers tend to be more empathetic than the general population? No data, just a thought.
Thanks for the compliments. I got both my bachelors and masters degrees from NYU. TBH, my story is a clear example that there are plenty of smart people who are less fortunate. My entire family stopped believing in me and for good reason. Not one was willing to invest a penny in my education and expected me to fail. But what I found was something that was always in me. And I believe there are many who have it in them but never are fortunate enough to find it.
Zeel, YesYes36, and Robert......all of you said some very insightful, and very true things in your replies to the original poster.....Giving credit to your parents was very nice Robert, I agree 100%....I was blessed with 2 loving parents who had to scramble real fast in raising me when they found out I was born with a congenital bone disease. They not only refused to coddle me and tell me I was "special", the mainstreamed me from day 1 and pushed me to succeed. They are well into their 80s now, and it is my turn to take care of them, which I now do with my 2 siblings.
YesYes36, it is a credit to your management skills (which are often the result of life experience and not formal education) that you are able to achieve success through the efforts of others.....my number one management principle: "make people feel good about themselves and make them feel valued"....they will move mountains for you as their manager if you do this.
Zeel, well done on finding your way after your youthful adventures.....you could teach a lot of grownups who never "grew up" a thing or two on how to become successful. What university did you finally attend after community college (if you don't mind sharing)....
And whoever said that the women on here are whip smart, you are spot on in that assessment. As I have been searching and communicating with some of the providers here, I have learned that most appear to have 4 year college degrees and some well beyond that.
I'm still partial to nurses though.....(where's the damn smiley icon with sunglasses when you need it...!
I always hated meetings where my managers told me what they were planning to do. We rarely had those meetings in my businesses, rather they had those meetings with their staff. The meetings I enjoyed were the ones where they reported their results. I knew, and I let them know, that they would make mistakes along the way. Making a mistake was not terminal for their career. I told them, "just don't make two in a row". "Two in a row and we had to have a meeting that they would not enjoy". Empowerment is what turned my people on and is what made our businesses successful with some very happy employees.
You mentioned your proclivity for nurses. I don't know what part of the country you are in, but if you're near Columbus, OH or if you can catch her touring, you should hook up with a young lady named Ashley Nicole. She's a nursing student and she will rock your socks off. Be sure to eat your Wheaties before you see her. She's my out of town ATF without a doubt!
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