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What's the big deal?
willywonka4u 22 Reviews 241 reads
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What the undetectable firearms act does is make it a requirement that all guns are made of a certain amount of metal. The fear was that with the new advent of "plastic guns" like Glocks, that people could sneak them past metal detectors at airports.

Somebody must have forgotten to tell the idiots in Congress that AMMO is made of metal. Usually brass. Lead with some older cartridges. If I have to empty my pockets of change whenever I go through airport security, or walk into a court house, or hell go to my freakin' job, then guess what? You can't get ammo past a metal detector either.

The question comes to mind: How many people have been killed because someone sneaked an all plastic gun in someplace? Is it more than zero?

Besides, it's pretty easy to make an all plastic gun. Go to Home Depot and pick up some PVC pipe, a  coupler and an endcap. Attach the coupler on one end, with a smaller diameter pipe, put the end cap on, put a nail into the center of the endcap. Put a shotgun shell into the larger pipe with the coupler, use the smaller pipe with the nail as your firing pin. See, you just got an all plastic (minus the nail) shotgun, and you made it for under 10 bucks.

Surely this means we need to ban PVC pipe, despite that no one ever gets killed from all plastic shotguns, right?

...In 1988, Reagan signed the Undetectable Firearms Act (Remember "In the Line of Fire" with Clint Eastwood & John Malkovich)?

The law will expire next month if not renewed.  In the last few years, the NRA never met a gun law it liked so they'll probably browbeat their spineless GOP flunkies into letting the law sunset.  Another GOP profile in courage.

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I'm with the NRA no matter how "sensible" the proposed or soon to expire legislation is.  

  The Red team has debased ACA since the beginning partly because it is far too long and abstruse for ANYONE to reasonably decipher. The Patriot Act is no different. Even though ironically it was an Elephant who championed the Patriot Act its many provisions make a pariah of those formerly innocent of ANY misdemeanor.  

  Prior to the Patriot Act I had ONE checking account in the name of a business I formed thirty years ago. Whether I was paid in my name as an "employee" of some employer or the check was made out to my ‘fictitious business name’ I could sign the check into my fictitious business's account. Mere months after the Patriot Act was legislated I was forced by my bank too open an account in MY personal name which liable me in a dozen different ways.  

  Prima-Fascia a National Gun Registration sounds completely reasonable. But thanks to the Patriot Act employers are now allowed as well as REQUIRED to invasively look into a job-seekers past as NEVER BEFORE! Too assume that the records of a "National Gun Registration" would somehow be 'off limits' for a pre-employment background check is blind naivety. Too have ones hope for a job nixed for exercising or NOT exercising their 2nd Amendment Right is far beyond WRONG

GaGambler267 reads

which was rammed through almost solely by Dems, The Patriot Act, while created by Elephants, was voted in overwhelmingly by BOTH parties, Elephants and Donkeys alike.

This doesn't make it the least bit better, but it does confirm in my mind that I much prefer gridlock, and the last people I want in office are people who, get things done. When government, gets things done. The American people get fucked. ACA, and the equally offensive Patriot Act are proof of that.

Oh yeah, I agree with your post completely, I am in favor of anything that might possibly stop ObamaCare, and I have given up quite enough of my freedoms in the name of the War on Terror. TYVM.

BTW does anyone here think it is too big a reach to believe that the next "war" on our own citizens might be done through ObamaCare itself, Does a "war on obesity" seem too far fetched? with people having to report their BMI through their health provider, ie The Government, and those judged "too fat" may have to pay for it through a tax penalty.

If you had asked previous generations if they thought their might come a time you could be jailed  for years for smoking a plant that grows wild they would laugh in your face, or if you told them you could be held indefinitely as an "enemy combatant" right here in the good old USA without any right to due process, what do you think they would say. So don't laugh my question off as an impossibility just yet.

I have a longtime friend in my town who has shared your sentiment for as long as I've known him.  

 For a long time I respectfully questioned this philosophy; as well as his decision to let his 5 residential properties go to seed rather than rent them. Recent aforementioned epiphanies seem to vindicate this and other philosophies.  
:D

GaGambler275 reads

I think the best thing we can hope for is a completely polarized Government, with the Tea Party keeping the GOP from acquiescing to the Dems, and some nut group from the left keeping the "mainstream" Dems from compromising with the GOP. This way nothing happens and we end up maintaining the status quo, which while not a perfect solution, at least slows our march towards the abyss.

As you know, I too have had this sentiment for many years, certainly longer than the decade or so I have been on TER. It was my major reason for voting for Clinton.

What the undetectable firearms act does is make it a requirement that all guns are made of a certain amount of metal. The fear was that with the new advent of "plastic guns" like Glocks, that people could sneak them past metal detectors at airports.

Somebody must have forgotten to tell the idiots in Congress that AMMO is made of metal. Usually brass. Lead with some older cartridges. If I have to empty my pockets of change whenever I go through airport security, or walk into a court house, or hell go to my freakin' job, then guess what? You can't get ammo past a metal detector either.

The question comes to mind: How many people have been killed because someone sneaked an all plastic gun in someplace? Is it more than zero?

Besides, it's pretty easy to make an all plastic gun. Go to Home Depot and pick up some PVC pipe, a  coupler and an endcap. Attach the coupler on one end, with a smaller diameter pipe, put the end cap on, put a nail into the center of the endcap. Put a shotgun shell into the larger pipe with the coupler, use the smaller pipe with the nail as your firing pin. See, you just got an all plastic (minus the nail) shotgun, and you made it for under 10 bucks.

Surely this means we need to ban PVC pipe, despite that no one ever gets killed from all plastic shotguns, right?

I believe the NRA wants to protect the gun manufacturers. You, probably say that is their sole purpose, and I agree. 3D printers are a threat to the business of manufacturing, and gun sales.

 
I'd wager the NRA will do everything they can to keep this law current.

 

 
...as I said in the subject line, why the mention of Israel's legislation?

The manufacturers of fire arms.

 
H.R.1474  

Prohibits the manufacture, importation, sale, shipment, delivery, possession, transfer, or receipt of any receiver for a rifle or handgun, or of any ammunition magazine, that: (1) is manufactured by a person who is not a licensed manufacturer...  

 

 


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Big Papasan - are you outraged at Obama and Holder for letting guns flow to the cartels ?

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