"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

And he was a teenager when JFK was killed. Obviously, you mean his father but his father was long retired by the time 9/11 happened so you have really mixed up your convoluted attempt at connecting stories.

It has been 48 years to the day since he was assassinated and the truth will probably never come out.  I also wonder if George W. Bush who worked for the CIA at the time will have any confessions on JFK or the 3,000 Americans we lost on 911; on his death bed.  The people deserve to know the truth and will always seek the truth.  RIP JFK, I wished I had known you and many say you were the last American president that cared for the people.~Madison~

I know Johnson did not-had he he would not have so stupidly escalated the Vietnam war-he was the worst commander in chief we have ever had-Kennedy may have but I have no real way of knowing as I was very young during his brief presidency-maybe he did-maybe he did not.  I doubt there will be any dieing declarations or any real insight into anything as the current past president's cease to be alive-and if there were-how can you be sure you can believe what is being said or that they actually said it ????

It is what it is !!

I did read a rumor of a potential CIA connection when Bush owned Zapata Drilling in the  early '60s but have never seen anything directly alleged.

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Besides getting your dates incorrect you also listed the wrong Bush.  Please note that as brilliant of a film as JFK was almost everything in it has been debunked by even the most loony JFK conspiracy theorist.

I have never taken the time, and wow such blow back from board members.  I did do a term paper on Watergate and the Impeachment of Nixon.  I guess I need to investigate JFK before saying I am sorry I never knew him and that I believe our government and CIA had something to do with it.  I have spent a good deal of time researching 911 that happened in my lifetime though, and conspiracy theorists are going to start believing that others are the nut jobs if they keep believing what the media told us.  Bush had something to do with it and his family have a lot of blood on their hands....whether it started with father, son or grandfather.  

So, I am sorry our country lost a great president that people loved.  Thats all.  I don't know the facts, just sorry.

It's cool that you made a post honoring the memory of JFK but when you accuse a former president of being involved in his murder you should expect some blow back.

it is interesting to me and I will probably always search and research for the truth.  Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, I think we can all find something to be very grateful for.  Mine is my health and everyone I know and love is pretty healthy right now. Have a great holiday! ~Madison~

While he did do some good things, the general consensus these days is he had feat of clay.

I was 13, and it was one of the big events that shaped my life.  The other was 9-11.  They were my "Pearl Harbor" moments.

WHile at the time I was crushed byJFK, I think in hindsight he was not one of the great presidents.  If he had not been martyred, he may well have been primarily be remembered for his charm. I am still entrhalled by that aspect.  However, he did not have a lot of great accomplishments.

Even standing up to the USSR in Cuba is mixed, since if he had not been so naive, the crisis could have been avoided.  (Krushchev met with Kennedy and tought Kennedy would be a pushover, which is why he tried to put missles in Cuba.  Had he been more concerned with Kennedy, he might never have done that.  The same for the Berlin Wall.)

Today, Kennedy would be very conservative.  Indeed, he was a moderate/conservative Dem, a strong believer in lower taxes, a true hawk against the USSR.  I may be wrong, but I can't think of any position he advocated that would be advocated by today's liberals.

As I say, I was enamoured by him at the time, heart broken when he died, but looking back, I don't know how good he was.

This speech I am linking, sounds like he was warning the newspapers about secret societies and secret oaths.  I will have to research now, why did his family have so much tragedy?  I am sure I will end up with more questions than answers in my quest for the truth.

and I agree with most of them.  Re Cuba, it's true Krushchev had sized Kennedy up and thought him weak.  But it's also true the Russians were playing tit for tat because we'd put medium-range nuclear missiles on their doorstep in Turkey.
Your assessment of Kennedy as conservative by today's Dem standards is interesting.  It was truly a different time.  Most Republicans were less conservative then, too.  The entire moderate, "Rockefeller wing" of the party is long gone.  Remember people like Javits, Lindsay, Brooke, etc?  They'd have to be Dems today.  Nixon was a centrist but he couldn't get nominated today.  So both parties have moved closer to the extremes, which is too bad.  That's not to say there aren't moderate Republicans and Democrats but they are harder to find.  Both of Maine's Rep. Senators are continually being attacked as RINOs.  Sen. Campbell, Dem of Oklahoma is much closer to Rep views.  So it's not true of everyone but very different from Kennedy's day.

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Ike's final speech when he warned us about the "military-industrial complex."  He was a lot wiser than Dems gave him credit for.

Glad to hear that you and yours are doing well !  Happy Thanksgiving Madison !!

omg, how are you?  my life has been very fast since I left with working and sometimes 2 family members in the hospital at one time, brother at war and just stress with everybody is so broke.  I am having a time, but it has been a shock in the real world starting a business in a tanked economy.  Yall had me so spoiled.  Do you know how grateful I am?  I was a princess and I sure do miss being spoiled.  Thank you to my first? client on TER.  You sure did make it easy for me to stick around nice fellow.  ~Madison~

We have a unique problem on this board, alot of these people are not thinkers, and only seek to put you down, you're a thinker don't let anyone dim that light..


You can always tell who seeks to add real convo and thoughts because the won't seek to insult you..I swear so many of the men up here have a crab mantality and they just wanna pull you back down to their un-awake status and until you're only a parrot repeating everything you've ever heard they will not relate to you..

I cant say I know who did it but when I researched it i saw henry kissenger is the one who ordered to be done..

if you are denying that, then it's you who has YOUR blinders on and not madison

I am doing fantastic-the only thing that would make things any better if I was able to spend some time with you sometime soon!  Again-Happy Thanksgiving to my favorite TER Lady!!  You are missed!!

He is the Poster Without A Brain.

Everyone talks about the GOP not having a centerist group.  And you are right in saying it is both parties.  

How many Dems crossed the line to keep the deficit down. AFTER HILLARY SAID THE DEBT IS A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY (in 2008, of course.)  Lieberman - long time Dem from the Civil Rights Days. Shown the door.

How many Dems voted against Obama Care, even though the majority of the country was against it and has never been for it.

Any one here can find a dozen fed agencies that are redundant.  Not one Dem can find such an agency.

Every person in CA is furious at the prison guard union and other similar unions.  But the state is Dem, and not one Dem would vote to limit their benifits.

Let me guess, Che Guevara was a great person too.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".