Politics and Religion

Is he or isn't he?
QueenLatifah 2587 reads
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As Barack Obama's candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate's integrity.

Obama asserted in December, "I've always been a Christian," and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. "The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country [Kenya]. But I've never practiced Islam." In February, he claimed: "I have never been a Muslim. … other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71] I have very little connection to the Islamic religion."

"Always" and "never" leave little room for equivocation. But many biographical facts, culled mainly from the American press, suggest that, when growing up, the Democratic candidate for president both saw himself and was seen as a Muslim.

Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".

Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

                                       
Barack Obama's Catholic school in Jakarta.

                     
    The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school." A blogger who goes by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" found that "Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro' serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B. … Barry's religion was listed as Islam."

The public school: Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times learned from Indonesians familiar with Obama when he lived in Jakarta that he "was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended." Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star visited the Jakarta public school Obama attended and found that "Three of his teachers have said he was enrolled as a Muslim." Although Siddiqui cautions that "With the school records missing, eaten by bugs, one has to rely on people's shifting memories," he cites only one retired teacher, Tine Hahiyari, retracting her earlier certainty about Obama's being registered as a Muslim.

                                       
Barack Obama's public school in Jakarta.

                     
    Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them [to Kristof] with a first-rate accent."

Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).

Piety: Obama himself says that while living in Indonesia, a Muslim country, he "didn't practice [Islam]," implicitly acknowledging a Muslim identity. Indonesians differ in their memories of him. One, Rony Amir, describes Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam."

Obama's having been born and raised a Muslim and having left the faith to become a Christian make him neither more nor less qualified to become president of the United States. But if he was born and raised a Muslim and is now hiding that fact, this points to a major deceit, a fundamental misrepresentation about himself that has profound implications about his character and his suitability as president. [link

O'FlimFlam's a homo. Don't remember where but I think I heard he and that (R) from Idaho, Larry something, were seen bumpin units in the mens room.

Different rumor, neverr mind.

Sorry, no pics for *RU_a_Latent_BK_Fan_2?* today...

Careful now, there's nothing that pisses off a lefty like reminding them of what their guy said, especially in an autobiography or the NYT.

Perhaps BO will say he was misquoted in his autobiography.

kerrakles1709 reads

What is he capable of doing?

How much deep understanding does he have on real issues (there are many)

Who the hell is he (all rhetoric crap aside)

What does he believe in?

So far I haven't heard crap from him on anything that makes sense but he has said plenty of nonsense.

Solar and wind for solving energy crisis (wait another 100 years)

Pull troops from Iraq and send them back in if things gets worse or Iran takes over. What is this war with toy soldiers (agree the war was a mistake but train left the station long time ago)

What is this about every talking to every Tom, Dick, Harry and their uncles.

How much money is he going to spend that we really don't have? Where is it coming from?

He is going to get an economy in recession and do you really want a novice at the helm.

Hillary would have been far better. Like it or no, she showed deep understanding of issues during the primary and put forward well thought out solutions.

I am an independent, rational, to the center one at that. I vote for people based what they can do for the people and the country and not the other way around.

This time around, McCain will get my vote and contributions. Mac has done lot for the country and will do what is right for the people and country and has shown the ability and guts to make it happen.

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