The tax return attack angle was getting weak, but now they have plenty of ammo since Ryan tried to redefine the legal definition of "rape", Aiken-style.

Yes, we're still 80 plus days out, the conventions have yet to happen, much less the debates, so anything can happen.

that you spend some time  looking hard at all the questions asked yesterday in the NBC-WSJ poll for example, that showed Obama 16 points ahead on the Medicare issue despite the fact that
RR continue to lie about Obama taking 765 or so billion away from Medicare.  In fact Obama doesn't take a penny away from patients at all, and  Ryan  Romney take away $6500 to begin with and keep the donut hole that costs patients significant money they don't have if they are on multiple meds for illnesses that they statistically get more later in  life.

In addition Ryan's voucher plan to replace Medicare that would phase in 10 years from now after a projected Romney Ryan two terms came to an end would absurdly try to pay for expensive care with a 15 grand voucher.

Tell me how OC someone takes 15 grand vouchers and pays for a CABG that cfdosts $80 a minute once the patient is wheeled into the OR and nothing else is done in one  of your  DC hospitals, or how a woman pays for 2 Genetech drugs costing her 190 grand to keep her al;ive with 15 grand.

Currently women that don't have insurance that will pay for these drugs, and many companies are absolutely dropping these women when claims are filed to care for them immediately (the same day in fact) die a painful metastatic death in bankruptcy unless they have the ability to pay for them that  Ann  Romney and Janna  Ryan  do (inherited money).

Patients Would Pay More if Romney Restores Medicare Savings, Analysts Say

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/us/politics/costs-seen-in-romneys-medicare-savings-plan.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1345705200-RZOUQsVzlqyvvIszVPykvg


And OC why  is your  party suddenly using the term "premium support" for the  word voucher?  Most of us aren't so stupid we think they are different because of course they aren't.

I look forward Mr. Cartman to your answer on how people with only a voucher and no other insurance will pay for costly medical  and surgical care that they statistically need later in life.

Summary Chart Comparing Obama vs. RR on  Medicare
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/21/us/politics/Comparing-the-Candidates-on-Medicare.html?ref=politics


Assumes that competition between plans will keep spending down. Would cap the premium support payments.
Earlier versions of Mr. Ryan’s plan would have capped spending at a slower rate.
If projected growth rates exceed the target, the cost control board would propose cuts. Spending could not be reduced by cutting benefits, but providers would probably be affected.
Under both the president’s plan and Mr. Ryan’s most recent plan, spending would grow at the rate of the economy, plus one-half of one percentage point.
Budget released March 2012
PAUL RYAN
MITT ROMNEY
Mr. Ryan’s plan includes the $716 billion saved by cost-cutting under the president’s plan. “Our budget keeps that money for Medicare to extend its solvency,” he said in June. He has also said the money would help reduce the deficit.
Mr. Romney has said he would not maintain the $716 billion in savings in the 2010 law. According to a spokesman, “A Romney- Ryan administration will restore the funding to Medicare.”
Mr. Ryan’s plan would retain some cost-cutting provisions in the 2010 law, like reduced reimbursements to providers.
Earlier versions of Mr. Ryan’s plan did not offer traditional Medicare as an option.


Would move to a premium support system in which the government would contribute a fixed amount for beneficiaries based on income, age and health status to purchase traditional Medicare or private plans through new exchanges. Would repeal the 2010 health care law, including the Medicare cost control board and expanded drug coverage subsidies.
Mr. Romney has said he would restore the cuts to Medicare. Analysts say repealing the cost savings would increase expenses for beneficiaries by hundreds of dollars a year.
Mr. Romney has proposed it first rise by one month per year and later rise with life expectancy.
Would gradually rise to 67 from 65 from 2022 to 2033.
Would not affect people who are currently 55 or older.


PRESIDENT OBAMA
Projected net savings of $716 billion over 10 years from the slowing of the program’s growth, which would shore up the Medicare fund for an estimated additional 8 years and go toward other parts of the health care law, like helping to cover the uninsured.
Savings
Reductions in reimbursements to providers and in subsidies for private plans

A new cost control board

Filling the drug coverage gap

Free preventive services

Incentives for efficiency

Increasing premiums for high earners
The president’s health care law maintains the fee-for-service structure in which Medicare pays medical bills for older people. Includes:


Summary