To ME it is the general term for a friendly comfortable meeting... I leave thinking "This is what life would be like if SHE was my GF!" But it is an illusion because real life would never be like that. Maybe a better definition is "What the client would *like* a GF to be".
PSE is more wham-bam with less of the kissing & cuddling. But there is overlap. Be very careful because some ill-informed clients THINK PSE is BB FS, because they see porn stars doing it BB. Even in the tested & certified world of porn, there is risk.
I take it to mean 'minimum services': fucking only, cbj rather than bbbjnqns, no daty, no dfk, no Greek, sometimes no fingers in the pussy, etc. Are there any positives to it over PSE? Your kind opinions would be greatly appreciated.
So I don't know why you keep asking the same basic questions here and on the other boards. Is there something in particular you are really seeking?
I'd be happy to discuss the differences with you via PM as we have seen some of the same gals...and it certainly appears that you HAVE seen both sides of the GFE/PSE equation!
So I would say that the entire positives are those that you convince yourself of and what you may deem important in a session. Read the reviews of potential NEW dates and you should easily be able to find what you seem to be seeking.
My idea for this separate thread came from that other thread. I thought more people would respond if it were in its own thread. At the time I wrote this one I didn't think anyone would be responding to the other one but obviously I was wrong.
I still ultimately wonder if anyone can give a positive distinction for GFE relative to PSE. To me GFE still just seems like 'less'.
Sorry for the appearance of duplicates.
IMO, GFE is "less" than PSE in that the menu is smaller. But PSE is also different in terms of the mood. It's hot, horny and pornlike, not romantic. Keep in mind also that GFE does not mean "the minimum." That would be a safety girl.
Cool thanks. To me, true GFE would be more romantic and passionate perhaps. It seems to go better also with an out-of-bedroom experience like dinner and drinks. I'll keep a more open mind about it, I promise. Thanks for your input.
To ME it is the general term for a friendly comfortable meeting... I leave thinking "This is what life would be like if SHE was my GF!" But it is an illusion because real life would never be like that. Maybe a better definition is "What the client would *like* a GF to be".
PSE is more wham-bam with less of the kissing & cuddling. But there is overlap. Be very careful because some ill-informed clients THINK PSE is BB FS, because they see porn stars doing it BB. Even in the tested & certified world of porn, there is risk.
This question has come up so often and you can find lots of opinions on it just by doing a search. Plus, as someone else has said, there is no clear definition. But, as I said on another thread, to me GFE does not mean "the minimum." The minimum would be a safety girl who does CBJ, no DATY, no FIV, no DFK or LFK.
GFE means (in addition to acting like a passionate girlfriend) BBBJ, DATY/DATO, LFK/DFK at a minimum. It may or may not include NQNS and probably doesn't include greek.
PSE means that, on top of all the GFE services, she acts more like the girls in a porno movie, swallows (but may spit it out) and it's usually a code for greek included, though there are exceptions.
All this is why you have to read her reviews to find out what's on the menu and what isn't.
Gotcha. See my response above to chgocpa as to why I re-posted this.
if you want X hours of just jumpiing her bones than PSE is preferable. Personally, I enjoy the slow build up, being more of a BFE to my partner and getting GFE in return. I likely will only O once or maybe twice in a session but I enjoy the h*ll out of every minute.
To me GFE in MORE, not less... but the action orientated might feel the opposite. This is why it is so important to read the written reviews... and for the reviewers to give more than just an alphabet soup of positions.
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GFE (Romantic) - PSE (Erotic) NOT mutually exclusive.
Redbook GFE = Redbook Girl Friend Experience. The term GFE, while understood to mean "girl friend experience" is specifically defined by Redbook (myredbook.com) as GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG"
She didn't like kissing, didn't like DATY, so wasn't really RBGFE.
Often a provider will refer to this as "full" GFE or "real" GFE.
To me the difference is quite simple. GFE is like a date with a guaranteed outcome - even if it begins and ends in the bedroom. Expect kissing, hugging, touching, foreplay, BBBJ, DATY (if you like), CFS, and MSOG (if you/she have time) and cuddling afterwards. Some GFE's may take CIM (spit or swallow), COF or COB, but none of those three things are a function of GFE. Some GFE's MAY do anal - but that is not a function of being GFE - rather her personal preference or "menu".
PSE entails a more extreme form of sex, like you were making a porn movie. Generally, COF, CIM, COB, overt moaning and (perhaps most importantly), anal. Interestingly while a PSE MAY do all the extreme acts, my understanding is that DFK is NOT a part of PSE.
Great detailed explanations of most/all hobby terms here:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RBGFE
Redbook GFE = Redbook Girl Friend Experience. The term GFE, while understood to mean "girl friend experience" is specifically defined by Redbook (myredbook.com) as GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG"
She didn't like kissing, didn't like DATY, so wasn't really RBGFE.
Often a provider will refer to this as "full" GFE or "real" GFE.
To me the difference is quite simple. GFE is like a date with a guaranteed outcome - even if it begins and ends in the bedroom. Expect kissing, hugging, touching, foreplay, BBBJ, DATY (if you like), CFS, and MSOG (if you/she have time) and cuddling afterwards. Some GFE's may take CIM (spit or swallow), COF or COB, but none of those three things are a function of GFE. Some GFE's MAY do anal - but that is not a function of being GFE - rather her personal preference or "menu".
PSE entails a more extreme form of sex, like you were making a porn movie. Generally, COF, CIM, COB, overt moaning and (perhaps most importantly), anal. Interestingly while a PSE MAY do all the extreme acts, my understanding is that DFK is NOT a part of PSE.
Great detailed explanations of most/all hobby terms here:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RBGFE