that they flatter us for more than just the money.  I think that, within the parameters of the fantasy we are playing out, most good providers actually are in the moment and do care how we feel, so they flatter us.  

At least that's been my experience...or else I am a total naif!  I don't think they're all cynical money-grubbers.

My two cents.

I tend to see the same providers multiple times.

There are times when, the same provider, has faked an orgasm with me and times when she has had a genuine orgasm.  Sometimes you can tell for certain due to physiological reactions that cannot be faked, sometimes you are just guessing.

There is a provider I see who simply doesn't fake orgasms.  If she reacts such that she is having one, she is having one.  If she does not have one, she doesn't react that way.  Sometimes she has one with me sometimes, she doesn't.

Just because a provider doesn't have an orgasm, doesn't mean she isn't enjoying herself.  I have had sessions without having an orgasm myself and found them to be great experiences.  Sometimes you are too tired or drunk to climax.

There are also providers who fake orgasms, badly.  If I have been going down on her for 30 seconds and she tells me how she is cumming, well...

I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

I have little doubt that the ladies I see would not give me a second glance without a payment, but one of the criteria I use in deciding to be a "regular" is that they seem to enjoy what they are doing irrespective of orgasms.  There is nothing worse than having sex with a woman who'd rather be doing something else.  There is a word to describe such women: Wives.

But I don't worry about it much.  If it's obviously fake then I probably won't return because it just messes with the illusion too much.  I'm also under no illusion that I'm some sort of stud.  My objective (besides enjoying myself), is to be a good client (polite, clean, doesn't do stupid things to annoy or worry the lady) and I hope she does enjoy our time together on a physical level as well.

Sometimes its a matter of how much time is available. If its a half hr session I'm probably not concerned unless its a by-product of what I need, and sometimes that happens. If its an hour, and because I enjoy DATY, it is expected, and not as easy for her to fake it as she might think. But its a definite negative if she pretends and its obvious.

But when you say she is working for tips then I would suggest you are also seeing the wrong kinda provider if its important to you. Most providers, if they expect regular clients, have flat all inclusive rates and do not necessarily expect a tip.  Its more important to them that you leave with weak legs and a smile on your face.

All providers are money-grubbers.

All hobbyists secretly hate women.

I figure I've met between 60 and 80 Providers so far, and the only thing they ALL were is female (I checked). A few were money-grubbers. But I do my research so that's only a few. At least a few faked an orgasm, some pretty obviously. But I've never heard a woman suggest I should tip because she had (or faked) a good O.

There's a strong undercurrent of misogyny running through TER discussion boards, viz the OP. Yet the women I've talked to say most hobbyists are polite and respectful and don't appear to hold providers in contempt.

Someone said when Providers meet they talk about business. Well DUH! It is a business. Why shouldn't they? I've attended M&Gs and had lunch from time to time with a number of hobbyists and the subject of money always comes up. Bragging about the provider who gave him a special rate, or extra time, or even met him off the clock, is a favorite pastime. Doesn't mean we're all trying to cheat them out of their livelihood.

It just beats the heck out of me why anyone would bitch because a woman tries to make us feel good about ourselves. It's what we are paying them to do, isn't it?

......... I'd rather not fake it. If i'm not going to cum i'll make him aware of it (sometimes I can take a while) but when a gent goes down on me I'm hoping for the real thing. I'm not super vocal when i'm getting licked but when I'm REALLY cumming you're gonna know it! I don't cum with every client but more often than not I do many times.  

And working for tips? Um lol I think you just confused us with waitresses and/or strippers or something.

You all remember it. It's the joke about how you can tell when a woman's had an orgasm.

Insensitive, misogynistic punchline: who cares?

Well, I do, but it's not the most important thing on my mind. I've had my fingers get squeezed by tightening muscles (in fact, I've had my whole fist get squeezed a couple of times), and I've had providers twist away while laughing and gasping. It's nice. It makes me feel good to give someone pleasure. I love to watch a woman come. Still, when it comes right down to it, making a woman come is not what I love about eating pussy. I love the sensual experience of it: taste, touch, smell, being that close. I love to do it; it's one of the things I look for in providers. The provider coming, like I said, is nice, but it's a by-product of my enjoyment. If the provider doesn't come, I don't feel too bad; there is still compensation.

Also, if they fake it well, i.e., letting me do it for a while instead of "coming" after 30 seconds, sometimes that's just them politely requesting that I move along. That I don't mind either. It's the theatrical ones that kind of bother me. I'd prefer not to have my intelligence insulted with the suggestion that men think of the female orgasm as a dance number. Like other posters have noted, I know I'm no stud; treating me like one is kind of a subtle cheap shot, like I'm so typical that the usual routine is good enough. That's what makes me not repeat with a provider.

Bottom line: in my reviews, I mention orgasmic moments, but I rarely claim they absolutely were. And when I read reviews, I read accounts of (female) orgasms with a level of skepticism. It's not what I read a review for. I'm looking for menu, personality, demeanor, etc.