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Re: Minnesota Nice
souls_harbor 78 reads
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Hmm, you don't seem to mind offending "transphobic" people.   Thus the fact that something "offends" someone doesn't seem to be the deciding factor.  Rather it seems to be "who" it offends.  

IJMiggs4611 reads

After meeting an advertised “female” provider at her W Hotel incall downtown Minneapolis, I believe her $$$ and surgeon(s) did an amazing enough job to get me off.  Only after taking it all in, I am 95% sure I was with a man!

5%  margin of error, sounds like  other  party didn't  thrust deep enough.  

I also thought that was an interesting choice of words!!!!

For one , he had a 5% doubt factor.  

 Two all he said was he thought it was a man  he spent time with.   Nothing more nothing less.  

 
So read all the black parts , or shut the fuck up. And that goes for your sidekick post above yours.

souls_harbor91 reads

It's liberal tribalism.  They don't care who they offend if not in their tribe.  But anyone in their tribe is off limits to offense.

Butthole104 reads

That’s why they are always jealous and envious of the good escorts. The most popular and successful escorts don’t even advertise or talk on this site.  Most of the tribe has *avaible now* lights on a couple sights all day getting no $$$.  Sexual and Financial Frustration.

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smelltheglove133 reads

Maybe those successfull escorts dont post here because they have a life.

Butthole115 reads

They can’t post on here when they are balls-deep.  The ones who post anger are bored and not getting paid.

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You can't  do a U Turn out of that. Just sayin.

Maybe her "Rebranding " will have another shimmer ..  

IJMiggs103 reads

Who put a stick up your twat?  There is nothing transphobic about my post.  In fact, I am all for trans rights.

Figuring out that the person you just had sex with was born a man is not transphobic, it is just reality. He said nothing disparaging about the person.

We will never be able to communicate if we can't be honest. There is a difference between a woman born a woman and a woman born a man. (Can we just say uterus and be done?)  I can assure you that the vagina will also feel different when explored digitally as there will be no cervix.

I could go on, but one doesn't need to be a Transphobe to be surprised by these differences.

And let's  be perfectly honest, guys often pay money to get exactly what they want. If they want a heavy black girl and a thin white girl shows up, I would hope we would all agree that the guy has every right to be pissed. And a brief tour of the board will reveal every kink and preference imaginable. So I would say that a Post-Op tranvestite should disclose this.  Now that society has encouraged these people to come out of the shadows and and be accepted, they also need to be honest with who they are.

>>Figuring out that the person you just had sex with was born a man is not transphobic, it is just reality.

 
Trans women are born women.

 
>>He said nothing disparaging about the person.

 
Except for negating their gender and being clearly disgusted, no, of course not.

 
>>There is a difference between a woman born a woman and a woman born a man.

 
Trans women are born women.

 
>> (Can we just say uterus and be done?)  

 
Nope. A uterus is an internal organ entirely unrelated to one's gender.

 
>>I can assure you that the vagina will also feel different when explored digitally as there will be no cervix.

 
Clearly not that different, as the OP was quite convinced by it in the moment.

 
>>If they want a heavy black girl and a thin white girl shows up, I would hope we would all agree that the guy has every right to be pissed.

 
Good thing the woman that showed up was presumably the same woman as featured in her ad!

 
>>So I would say that a Post-Op tranvestite should disclose this.  

 
Good thing the provider wasn't a transvestite then!

 
>>Now that society has encouraged these people to come out of the shadows and and be accepted, they also need to be honest with who they are.

 
Just to humor your ignorant gender essentialist logic for a second -- consider the risk of violence a post-op, "passing" trans woman sex worker would face by disclosing that information. And she shouldn't have to.... because.... trans...women..are...women.

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If she advertised as TS he would most likely sailed by her ad wouldn't  he?    Nowhere  did he say he was looking  to put a square peg  in a round  hole now did he?  

Just dishonest  advertising to get the guppies to the door , thats the long and short  of this .  

And it appears  there is a supply side and demand side for those that want to pursue that route for their enjoyment  and happiness.  

So  go meet one another through an honest ad and bang til state of bliss. Real fucking simple.

Trans women are born men and have male genetics.  

This is where people really losing support. Please stop pretending that hormones and plastic surgery makes you a woman. If it helps great, but genetically you are what you were born as and always will be.

And please stop saying that science in transphobic.  

Trans women are born women huh?

 
By your logic, Kendall and Kylie Jenner have 2 biological moms? I’m fairly liberal, and if Brad wants to take estrogen, chop his dick off, get implants, shave beard and be called Brenda, I’m all for it. But don’t give me some bullshit that Brad was born female.

Nutbar105 reads

A quadrifecta.  
  You attack a group of providers.  
  You attack people who have TS in their families (including such who are participating in this thread).  
  You implicitly mock the clients of TS.  
  And you display your deep ignorance.

While i agree with the majority of what you said, and do believe that it should be disclosed in the hobby if you are transgender, whether it be post or pre op, and while i dont find this post to be transphobic...  
As the fiancee of a transgender FTM (female to male, pre op), i would like to point out that while you may think that transgender people are "encouraged" to come out and accepted, you are wrong. Yes there are places that are accepting and "gay friendly", but the majority of areas are still extremely hateful. Bathroom policies, feminists screaming that trans-women arent women, certain stores trying to make it legal to turn away gay people in general, sexual assault issues, parents disowning their kids for being transgender, etc., don't really display encouragement. Its not necessarily that they aren't being honest with themselves, because trust me when i say they want nothing more... But it also isnt entirely safe or welcoming for them yet. Just my .02 on the subject. (:

Thats why you read reviews. There are plenty of TS's in MN that are reviewed. Study up and you won't be "surprised".

Whats going on Minnesota?  This is the second transphobic garbage thread this month.  First, a post from a provider and now from a hobbyist.  NDT once said, "ignorance is a virus.  Once it starts spreading, it can only be cured by reason."  Believe it or not there are trans people reading your posts.  Whether you find your words to be offensive and degrading or not to someone else is not up to you to decide.  There is no argument here.  This thread should have never existed and to argue its validity is only a continuation of what should have died. I am a trans provider and not that I can speak unanimously for all in the trans community, but I find much of the language debasing, crass, and thick-headed.  I would also have a hard time believing anyone else who identifies as such would say otherwise.  If you want to be an asshole fine; you have every right unfortunately.  However, to continue to argue whether or not this is offensive to certain people is to perpetuate the ignorance that the thread began with.  Please stop spreading this trash.  Please stop using trans people as a tool of measurement almost always smaller than the gender binary.  Please educate yourself.   Thank you.

souls_harbor79 reads

Hmm, you don't seem to mind offending "transphobic" people.   Thus the fact that something "offends" someone doesn't seem to be the deciding factor.  Rather it seems to be "who" it offends.  

And how did I do that specifically?  By asking for some compassion and a willingness to learn what it means and what it’s like to be a trans person?  By expressing that I found comments here to be offensive to me?  How does me being offended actually translate to being offensive to the offender?  I believe I wrote in a generalized manner simply asking for education not the proliferation of something that I believe, as a member of the community represented in the comments, to be misguided, unfactual, and rooted in the creation of a gender hierarchy that places trans people below others or doesn’t consider us at all.  I’m glad you’re offended by me expressing my sentiments, but once again there is no argument here from a cis-male perspective because it has nothing to do with cis males.  EMPATHY is a virtue.  To validate hate by attempting to become the victim of someone who spoke their mind against it seems, frankly, to be pretty childish.  Lastly, what alternative do you propose? I am willing to hear out the other side because my convictions are strong enough where I don’t feel threatened by an attack on them. Is the trans community just suppose to lie down in the tracks?  Do we not have every right that anyone else has to stand up for ourselves?

He nutted  and by all appearance gave a tip of hat to the person  for  a well done procedure  without saying he now required therapy to recover from trauma. Now it's  a biology / psychology  issue.  

 

No , it's not what he may have been looking for, and would have liked  to know that fact, but wasn't  clear  in the ad.  

Posted By: IJMiggs

After meeting an advertised “female” provider at her W Hotel incall downtown Minneapolis, I believe her $$$ and surgeon(s) did an amazing enough job to get me off.  Only after taking it all in, I am 95% sure I was with a man!

I am a little confused by this post.   Did you enjoy the experience and have fun? Would you have seen this person if they would have been up front with you and said they used to be a man?  And what happened after the session that made you think you were with someone that used to be a man? And last but not least, to alleviate all confusion, did you ask the provider this question to confirm your suspicion and how you felt about the situation? I am not sure yet if I find this post transphobic, just need more clarification as to your motive.  

Reading comprehension  for hookers.  Those other  two need your help, they have lost  their shit.

Just dont give it away for free.  200.00 / hr  consultation fee . Boost that retirement savings.

IJMiggs102 reads

I absolutely enjoyed the experience!  So much, that I ejaculated very hard in the provider’s anus.  During the session, I had no idea that the provider was a man.  When I started the conversation when I walked in the hotel room, I learned that the provider did not speak much English and I do not speak Portuguese.  I did notice that there was an abnormally high amount of lube on the vagina which I learned now is necessary with a surgically created vagina.  However, it was only after the session when the light was on did I notice the high male cheek bones, Adam’s apple, and especially large man hands that I pieced it together I had just screwed a man.  I was a bit shocked what just happened as I had never been with a man before.  However, I did not get upset with the provider because I felt like they had earned every dollar I paid them and I should’be been the one to recognize and deny partaking in their services.  I remember reading in the late 90’s about men in Brazil getting such advanced sex change surgery that heterosexual men would be attracted to them.  Well, it worked on me!

Trans or simple crossdressing guy sets appointment with provider , doesn't  disclose  or have prior discussions  making provider  aware  of ,thats who is coming into her space . Would this be a discussion of transphobia. I think not.  
Just a guess but I'm putting my money it would along the lines of providers safety and honesty .  

 
And before  you all lose  your shit, no Im not saying the hooker in any way was a threat to his safety.  For all I know he got a great nut off  and was cool with that ,  outside of fact that felt duped. Op can answer that  for himself.

Calling a trans woman a man is transphobic whether you liked fucking her or not.

So you would be happy if he stated that the women I slept with was born a man?

Or can't we admit reality anymore?

Like it came Straight out of Al Sharpton  University.  

 

Everyone has some phobia  now , well according to you.    Dr. Phil  have a gig lined up for you ?

Posted By: holly.evans
Re: Sigh
Calling a trans woman a man is transphobic whether you liked fucking her or not.

IJMiggs109 reads

No it’s not you stupid bitch!!  I shared an intimate time with a South American man that had amazing surgery.  The provider looked so hot that I had a massive orgasm as a result. There is nothing critical or transphobic about my experience in my thread.

That they are bringing  into this thread , not yours or the the other person involved.  They just can't  deal  with their own shit plain  and simple.

None of us should have to justify not wanting to have sex with another person.

Vorlon,    Holly and Remy hijacked that fucking post for the purpose of showing loyalty  to the Twatter  faction.   Then the fucknuts took over  made it into some stupid shit about liberalism.    Played right into their  hand.    Nice job chimps.  

Miggs has given updates to his OP and if accurate  accounting it shows that that he missed the clues took responcibility  for that  , and learned from  it. Had a good time  all the while. But thats just not good enough for  THEM, now is it.  Of course not. They don't  even have the integrity to acknowledged  what he said in  his follow ups .    But maybe they are all tied up in Earl's paint booth    

Two fucking people really know how that scene  played out behind closed  doors.  And if they parted on good  terms , and happy  well lets just shut the fuck up on this made up Transphobia  bullshit about HIS experience.  

Are you going to let us in on who this said provider is ?
Maybe a link or some kinda hint ?
Just curious.  

Not a real fucking bright Idea.  

If anyone wants to know you are welcome to pm him  or he will review.  For obvious reason , they don't  need their name drug through mud on here.  

If you say anything to anyone , you better be sure what camp they are in. Remember social  media  isn't  TER.  Lots  of tentacles  in those  aliases.

IJMiggs112 reads

The provider P*****  was visiting MN for only a couple days and I don’t want to potentially compromise their reputation in South Florida where they primarily work.

Thanks,
The only problem I have, is it false advertising ?
Let's face it where the consumer and there a provider.
I thought this what the reviews and boards where about, to weed these out.
Just tired of all the BS and down right lye's in some off the providers adds  
Yeah, I know go main stream and you won't have a problem ????    
Know offense meant towards you or anyone else just my ramblings.
Take care !  

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