Do you think k girls are still more submissive than others? What is your definition of submissive and how exactly do you think kgirls fit in to it now?  

Maybe hundreds of years ago, yes, but I don't know if that's all still  true cuz many of the hundreds of white girls I've met seem to do more of my request, (many implicitly wish to be dominated), than k girls and are more open about sex in general. So while offering up a more open menu isn't precisely a definition of sub,  at least in terms of the context of heeding to doing what I want seems nonasian are more likely. For example, not many k girls do Greek or really bi or duos or role play but then I haven't seen too many kgirls in the escort biz to have a big enough sample size although in the civie world I obviously know plenty of Korean girls being a k guy myself.

In terms of being less opinionated or shy,  maybe? But then kgirls all seem to have opinions too esp in this day and age, and there are both shy and non shy types like any other race. So where do you think this stereotype cums from?

K-girls being submissive is a total myth.  Reason why some K-girls don't say much is because they don't speak English.  LOL

that stereotype if it exists still is an act by the kgirl as part of the service.  we still got some old school guys thinking with that geisha type of service asian back in the old days which started this shy myth.  which some kgirls realize and the reason some of them help you guys strip or tie your shoes etc to get your business.   the shy myth is also reinforced by the lack of english by the kgirl.

korean women are one of the dirtiest foul mouthed opinionated women on the planet.  man if you guys heard some of my exs yelling matches with me!  sheesh your view of your ATFs would be a totally different story.

 

The girl I met recently, she started talking quite a bit when she realized I'm not a foreigner and can understand her language.  

She even jokingly told me to be quiet and focus on sex cuz I was talking too much during the act.  LMA

I've been with white / mixed girls but I've also been with a few korean civie girls too.  

Here's a quick break down that summarizes each of em in one phrase.

1) scientist girl, total bitch who attacked me whenever i disagreed with her views. she had a tendency to believe any study that's out there without really finding out the premises or biases of the study. we fought quite a bit when the topic of science came up but we got along well when we decided not to debate about pointless shit.  
2) girl 3 years older than me, ivy-league "smartass" who had to chip in her opinion about everything i said. very wealthy now and married to a submissive chinese dude. she still always pays when on occasion we get together for dinner/drinks. kinda insulting that she always takes care of me but she considers me as the love of her life.    
3) party girl many years younger than me. she looked like a strong headed bitch, yellow stripes on her hair,tatooes and looked like she's always ready to go clubbing. She didn't really talk much to strangers cuz she had this "serious" look. She gave off that 'unapproachable stuck up bitch' look.  
4) girl who attended top school in korea. When i told her how i feel about her trying to make her my gf, she analyzed my thought process trying to pick my brain as to why exactly I like her. She fucking grilled me for 8 hours trying to figure out if it's sexual, romance, friendship, lust, or whatever. OMG Talk about making a guy regret ever showing any interest. I told her forget it. She cotacts me after a week and we dated for a few months. Wasn't surprising that she had a habit of grilling me over everything. bitch
5) stripper (korean american). worthless bitch who takes even the smallest things to heart, lashes out at me over littlest of things. bitch
6) leader in the community, executive in corporate world, not bitchy at all, good at communicating her thoughts and making people understand. somehow people end up going with her wishes though. her friends told me that she's known to get what she wants this way.  
7) girl known for her temper and bad attitude, her nickname was "kigger" which stands for "korean ni**er". she had a boyfriend at the time so we couldn't officially date but we spent alot of time together. the reason why she's in this list is because she spent more time with me than her bf. we were officially together during our tryst but she went back to her boyfriend.  
8) tech trekky girl, shy, introverted. stint as a magazine model but very much into tech. all she did was watch sci-fi movies and star-trek / star wars like movies. sci fi movie junkie. i asked her if she's ever going to be OK with CIM but consdering she always spit out into the bucket/or bed sheet after even a bbbj, I kinda gave up hopes. civvie girl so i didn't expect much but a girl who spits out after a fucking BBBJ ? i thought that was a bit absurd. we got along well tho.

As you can see, it's hard for me to conclude any submissive stereotype based on my limited experience with korean girls. My sample size could be very small though which is is why I posted this post in the first place. I do question why so many foreigners think that civvie K-girls are straight up submissive especially when they have never dated a large enough sample to draw reasonable conclusions? In my experience, most of them were hard headed bitches.  

Here's a quiz:  

1. guess which one I NEVER had an argument with?
2. guess which one I dated the longest?
3. guess which one I considered most submissive sexually

cause all civie korean chicks suck.   either possessive, wrong in the head, lousy in bed (don't want to rim or cim), or medicore body.

 
date provider kgirls!  ...great at sex, great body, fun attitude, and richer then me.  but if only they didn't ask me to marry them all the time...just ruins it everytime.  silly women

if you cross their boundaries they will show you pretty quickly - often far more quickly than other providers - where the limits are

what you are experiencing is that k-girls come in one of two varieties for the most part -

either they are offering a fairly scripted and very pleasing service that includes things like washing you,  rimming you, etc that feel "submissive" in nature -

or

they are consummate GFEs and are happy to indulge you without time wasting as long as you stay within their limits -

this *willingness* on their part, without the time wasting and resistance often associated with other types of providers,   comes across as "submissive" especially when layered with the western "stereotype" of Asian providers.....

A good number of mid to ultra high end caucasian and mixed race girls offered this service.  In fact majority of w-girls that I've seen this year ate my ass and I didn't even ask for it, lol  

Washing is a hit or miss,  it isn't in their script like kgirls.  Many w-girls complain about not wanting hair getting wet but some have a head cap to use.

when girls get hired they are explained what US guys want...cim..rim.wash etc.. they are also shown other script like shower, mouthwash, preview bbj..lay on bed...bbbj in front if mirror etc.  

then its upto girl if whats on the menu or not....as you can tell as some girls dont cim or rim...

then there are some girls who offer some things to certain guys whether cause regular or cause click...as in if normally dont do cim but decides to offer that to you..

so yes a script is given but like any good story it can be edited...

 

It's not that they like washing you, but they do to make sure you are clean, specially if rimming is on the menu. All K-girl apt houses have hand held shower for this purpose and to not get their hair wet.

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