I did some soul searching to figure out why these high end providers piss me off. My conclusion, and it's just my opinion and yes I may be wrong, but when an escort charges 10 times more than average it reeks of snobbery, and makes me think, who the fuck does she think SHE is. I consider these feelings human nature. Ask yourselves this. You have a great mechanic that tunes your car perfectly, but you hear about a guy up in Highland Park that is supposed to be the best mechanic around, but he charges 10 more than yours. Are you going to say God bless him? or are you going to say, who the fuck does he think he is? Your barber gives you a good haircut for $15 but you hear about some great hairstylist that will do the same for $150. Hey, who the fuck does he think he is. Human nature. Then ask yourself what these high end providers think about their fees. I think they think they're hot shit, and if some sucker is willing to spend it, they'll take it. And you know what, they're not wrong. But I read this board and I don't want them to solicit me. Take your high priced shit down to the Yacht Club, and peddle your wares to those DomPerignon sipping, caviar eating north shore corporate embezeling CEO son of a bitches. Ofcourse thats just my opinion and I could be wrong, and if I am, then who the fuck do I think I am!
If you can't afford a Cadillac, you don't go to the dealer and complain about the price. You go and find a car that fits your budget. It's the same here. If the provider charges more than you want to pay, just find another provider. there is no reason to denigrate the provider, and/or her clients because she charges mor, and they pay it.
I don't go to a Caddy dealer and bitch about the price, and I don't want the Caddy dealer coming on this board trying to sell me his $60,000 STS. That was a bad analogy. It just so happens I drive a Caddy, and it's a piece of shit. Fucking Northstar engine burns a quart of oil every 700 miles. Oxygen sensors always burning out. I've had it with GM. I'm gonna trade it in on a Mazda. Sometimes less is better. Got that you High Enders.
there is a definite difference between a Cadillac and an Impala... is there such a difference between a 3k provider and a 300 provider??
In today's market place (I'm talking material goods now) you get what you pay for. Buy cheap, get cheap... buy expensive, get quality. In the escort world this rarely holds true. Its more an exploitation of a sex crazed fool and his money than it is quality for a high price.
Then why pay 200 - 300 for a provider. There are plenty of good capable crack whore streetwalkers that will do it for $20. Who the fuck do these high priced $200-$300think they are? That is the same logic you just used.
The answer is because you get what you pay for. With $200-$300 providers you get safer play areas and women who generally know what they are doing, do it safely adn treat you pretty good. With high end providers, the world is your oyster quite literally, the rooms are generally much higher end, and the attention is always 100% you. If that angers you, I suggest taking your chances with a $20 crack whore and be angry at the rest of the world all you want.
First off there are no good capable $20 streetwalking crack whores. The really good capable ones are $40. Evidently you like the low end crack whores. And I don't want the world to be my oyster, I want it to be my pussy. I don't need to pay $3000 to fuck the fancy room, or the fancy Drapes or the chocolate mint on the pillow. I just want some good pussy for $300 and I get it. I know what you defenders of upscale providers are up to. You're kissing ass so these high enders will give you a big discount. How could you be so fucking cheap.
Kudos to you on a great post. Hilarious!!!! started off strong and kept getting better!! Bravo
I won't have to worry about running into you at the Four Seasons or the Peninsula after having dined at Everest. BTW, I'll be with my $300 crack whore.LOL LIGHTEN UP DUDE!!! YOU'LL LIVE LONGER!!
and someone will be kissing, licking, stroking and poking Miss DiCarlo's magnificent body. Ohhhh, I'm so jealous. Whoever it is, please write a review so we 60 percenters can know what it's like to experience such a gorgeous creature.
There are market forces no matter the product... supply and demand work for escorts as anyone else. I choose not to see high-priced ladies because I'm only there for one reason. I don't get that personal nor do I think anyone should. Guys who want to drive the Rolls should do so and while I wouldn't deal with SWs, I like nice looking women who can polish my cock and put some energy into a good fuck. That's about it. These ladies high,low ,or in the middle are here to make cash. It's matters only that she be clean and conduct business in a place that is safe. To the guys that are buying the fantasy, I can handle that you have money to burn. In the end, the result should be the same; you release one or two and you are on your way. She says NEXT.
-- Modified on 12/1/2005 8:21:38 PM
I will give my 2 cents from a female provider POV.
Do I think I could get more than what I ask for???? Hell yes!! I wouldn't do that as I think that is unreasonable. I do what I do and enjoy it. This is not my career and nor do I want it to be. I do not want to get rich from this but there are some that do. I prefer to keep my rates lower than some because I am not greedy. I do not need to make 500/hr to live. I know what I need to live and that is all I ask. I maybe different than most in my thinking but I am not a materialistic person that needs things to be happy. I want my life to be easier while I persue an education and make something of myself. While doing that things are easier and I do not have to slave away 80 hours a week like I used to. This way I can live a little less stressed and become what I have always dreamed of being. Also no I do not chalk anyone up as another dollar nor do I say next. Everyone is a person and that is how I treat them.
Since you responded so eloquently, please tell me what you had issue with? My post was not a generalization of ALL women in the hobby, but I think NEXT is the prevalent notion. My point is that few if any ladies I have met are not emotionally available for other than the transaction. If you have a more personal approach to the subject, straighten me out. PM me if you really have a beef and we can arrange to box between the sheets?
-- Modified on 12/3/2005 12:28:11 AM
"belong on this board?"
There is no TER policy banning providers who charge above a rate outside and above your comfort level. Cars of all makes and models are included on www.cars.com. Providers of all price ranges are welcome to utilize TER until the moderators state otherwise.
If you can't afford Ivanna or another high dollar provider, move on with your life. Aren't there more important things to get angry about? Healthcare? Education, perhaps?
get to bitch about outrageous fees of high end providers. Your post smacks of snootyism. Perhaps your one of those cheap asses looking for a discount from poor Ivanna. Let me warn you, kissing her ass could be very expensive.
Ivanna is not my type, actually. She is beautiful, but I don't get the sense that there's much there. I do typically seek out ladies with multiple-hour minimums with higher-than-average rates. That has resulted in better sessions for me, and I have not been disappointed in my experiences...being the 6th customer served that day by a vapid gum-snapper? No thank you.
Your posts smacks of jealousy that certain women aren't available to you because of simple economics. Life isn't fair. Move on.
You seek out ladies with multiple hour minimums with higher than average rates. I seek out ladies with one hour minimums or less, at lower than average rates. The one thing we have in common is this also has resulted in better sessions for me, and I too have NOT been disappointed in my experiences. First off I usually schedule an early morning session. This guarantees I'm not the 6th one. And I'm a morning guy anyway. And as far as being jealous that certain women aren't available to me because of econmics, that's pure bull shit !! The fact is I'll match my $300 providers against your $500 or $600 providers any day, and here's why. First of all I'm a careful shopper. There are some real beauties out there for what I can afford. I may have to look a little harder than you but they're there. Then I find if I really like them, I become a regular, treat them right and end up getting multiple hour sessions at no extra charge. High end providers want to make money only, that's WHY they charge so much. Low end providers may also want to make money, but they like company too. Many of these women don't have much of a social life outside the profession, and they enjoy it when you make interesting conversation with them. So you see, I probably have MORE fun than you, because I have learned how to manipulate the system in my favor, and end up having my beautiful girls liking me more than your beautiful girls like you. If you think I'm wrong ask them to offer you a frequent flyer discount, and see what they say. So good luck to you, and spend your big bucks, have a good time, and as you said to me, move on. I can't believe I'm being so fucking nice about this. I'm usually such an asshole you know !!
"Many of these women don't have much of a social life outside the profession, and they enjoy it when you make interesting conversation with them. So you see, I probably have MORE fun than you, because I have learned how to manipulate the system in my favor, and end up having my beautiful girls liking me more than your beautiful girls like you."
"My cheap women like me better than your expensive women!" ROLFMAO!!! I'm sure any lady reading this is laughing to the point of incontinence at your stunning insight into their psycho-social makeup.
Many high-dollar providers make less than high-volume providers. Maybe the reason a woman charges more for her rates is because, amongst other reasons, she doesn't want to see eighty men a month? Maybe she's educated and relates better with professional, affluent men than she does with the great unwashed. Maybe she actually (gasp) sees escorting as an enjoyable side pastime and it isn't her sole means of supporting herself.
Hola mis amors
It seems I create this controversy often in the different cities I visit. Since this is my first time to Chicago I'll say this and then no more.
Thanks very much to all of you who participated in these threads, for the extensive word of mouth advertising, it was very beneficial! Now i know why they call Chicago the windy city LOL!
Whether you like it or not this is my board too, until there are policies which limit access to providers based on rate. If this bothers you, its your problem not mine, i'll continue to post ads until the gentlemen of Chicago decide they no longer want to visit with me at my posted rates, I'm happy to let the marketplace decide.
I thought Chicago was a tolerant place, but on this board there seemed to be a lot of rancor about my presence? Isn't tolerance one of the foundations of the hobby you all enjoy so much?
I'll be back to Chicago, I like it here, I had a wonderful time (despite the snowstorm) and meet many kind generous people and got to see some of the city.
Besoss
Ivanna Dicarlo
ps - i hope this is the last word about high end providers
But what a wonderfully spirited and measured response, Ivanna. I might have to meet you the next time we're in the same neck of the woods - I like a woman who takes no B.S. And I'm sure your dance card was plenty full while you were in Chicago
WELL !!! Ivanna, I guess you've told US a thing or two. So let me just say, Good Luck to You !! *WINK* And as for you cool_brit, your quite the hoity toity, do you slum here often? I'm sure those kind words to Ivanna will net you quite a discount next time your in the same neck of the woods as her. Hee Hee Hee !!!
cool brit, thanks for you kind words
Sdman, plese visit my website, I clearly state I wont negotiate.
I'll also take this LAST message to say
Happy Holidays Everyone!!
cool_ brit isn't going to. Yuk Yuk Yuk !!!