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Generational Gap question
arkanjil 34 Reviews 1080 reads
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My new ATF is in her mid-20s, Gen Z, and I'm in my 40s, early millennial. I'm beginning to notice a generational gap in conversations, some references she'll miss and at times I'm ruminating or dissecting things that I am not aware of because it was somethibg poplular among their generation. It's become apparent that I need to up my game in Gen Z culture in order to vibe fluidly. We do find some common grounds, like our love for animals that transcends generations, but there is a feeling of disconnect both of us miss a reference. I like vibing with my ATFs since I believe authenticity is the new currency and the sex feels better when the energy is in sync. I started this hobby in my early 30s when providers were my age or less with some a tad older so it was almost never a concern before, but as I age, I'm beginning to think I need to up my skillsets too. To all the elder gentlemen who have dates with ladies of multiple generational gaps, how do you deal with this generational cultural difference when interacting with younger providers?

If there is a trick to it, I think it is deciding to be interested in the person as a person,  regardless of their age.

 
This has a tendency to promote a similar attitude in the person which then forms a self-sustaining relationship.

 
Of course, it helps if there is a good chemistry between you and them.

 
Age is but a number.   Don't reify it into a barrier.

I don't know if I agree. I'm almost 64. I spent a lot of time with women in their 30s and even late 20s. I think age matters, less for them in fact, more for me. I heard those "I just feel so much more mature than my peers" from them, and that she feels like "we're on the same level" all the time but eh... maybe they don't but I sure do. Their interests, their knowledge, their energy levels are on the different level than ours.  

But the main problem I discovered when being with younger women is music. They listen to the tunes and the styles of their generation, and I don't know about you guys but it can get pretty testy in the car in regards to playing something that doesn't annoy at least one of us, and I'm not the type with propensity to argue. I mean every girl I spent few weeks vacations with told me that I was the first man in her experience that she didn't get into a single argument with. That is if you don't count "mild" disagreements about the playlists in the automobile lmao

I have very catholic tastes when it comes to music, and for a while I was enamored with rap music.

 
A provider, not too much younger than me, got into my car where I had the radio set to a rap-music station.   When she heard the music she said, "Who's been messing with your radio?"

 
I said "No one, I happen to like this music."    She looked at me like I had two heads.   But all was good, we became fairly close, but I didn't play any more rap music when she was around.

Posted By: mrfisher
Re: It's funny you bring up music....
I have very catholic tastes when it comes to music.
Me too! I like the oldies but goodies. Do you prefer Gregorian or Ambrosian chants? I don't want to give him a bum rap, but Buxtehude is a little too modern for me.  
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Kyrie on!

You will notice that I spelled catholic with a lower case c, to differentiate it from the church.

 
In any case, if I want religious music, I'll stick with the music of my people...

See which flies, both are obscure genre of music and the conversation can turn interesting. Thank you for all the advice 🙏

I enjoy the best of BOTH worlds: Catholic Techno!  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLk8AMNCo24
Apotheosis: O Fortuna
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There was a dancer at the Naked I Cabaret (sic transit gloria mundi) in Boston who danced to Apotheosis's version of "O Fortuna." It turns out that she was a friend of the techno band Apotheosis which is why she danced to that track. It also turns out that Apotheosis "sampled" Carl Orff's "O Fortuna" from his Carmina Burana without realizing it was still under copyright protection. The Orff estate sued Apotheosis and they had to pull the first version of their CD and re-release it without the "O Fortuna" track.  
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The very popular TER Provider and board contributor Carmina Kai  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/carmina-kai-147822 (see her doubles Profiles, too!)
chose her name Carmina from the Carmina Burana.
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(Both the Naked I dancer and Carmina Kai were wicked smart!)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmina_Burana
"Carmina Burana (Latin for "Songs from Benediktbeuern" [Buria in Latin]) is a manuscript of 254 poems and dramatic texts mostly from the 11th or 12th century, although some are from the 13th century. [...] [I told you I liked the oldies but goodies in my post, above!] They were written principally in Medieval Latin, a few in Middle High German and old Arpitan. Some are macaronic, a mixture of Latin and German or French vernacular. They were written by students and clergy when Latin was the lingua franca throughout Italy and western Europe for traveling scholars, universities, and theologians. Most of the poems and songs appear to be the work of Goliards, clergy (mostly students) ... " (See the full wikipedia article for the parts I left ... out.) :-)  
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Here are some versions of "O Fortuna" WITH LYRICS for the hard of hearing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwrgAnx6Q8
O For Tuna!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y88vF0l8FDo
O Four Tuna!

Posted By: arkanjil
Re: Honestly I might try this and techno-jazz
See which flies, both are obscure genre of music and the conversation can turn interesting. Thank you for all the advice 🙏
mrfisher has now disavowed having "Catholic" taste in music. Well, please excuuUUUuuse me for thinking that he was referring to the liturgical repertoire. That said, here are Happy Passover greetings and a Passover song for the upcoming holiday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q7Jo7FkLH4
Uptown Passover (Uptown Funk - rapping style)

But, I'll pass over, that for now and leave you with the old school example of Jewish punk/techno:

Pastrami? Why not a little polenta, a little beef sausage, or a little glass of wine? Or have them all, and pastrami, too!
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Jingle Bells? There is nothing Catholic nor Christmas-sy about Jingle Bells. There is no mention of religion or god or Christmas etc. in the whole song! It's all about "What fun it is to ride in a one-horse open sleigh!"  (In the same way, Leroy Anderson's Sleigh Ride is a winter / snow song without a single mention of Christmas or religion at all!  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-cylwouNDk  Sleigh Ride (Johnny Mathis rendition) )
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If Passover occurred during the snow season, you could play Jingle Bells and Sleigh Ride without offending your rabbi.  
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Years ago, your Jewish punk/techno example (above) was playing on the radio while I was studying the night before my 5th grade geography test. Normally an A+ student, I only answered one out of 20 questions correctly. In my haste, I put down Romania for EVERYTHING.  (It could have been worse: I might have gotten zero out of 20 if I had been listening the Sleigh Ride.)

Posted By: mrfisher
Re: Not true, for example, Jingle Bells is one of my favorite songs....
But, I'll pass over, that for now and leave you with the old school example of Jewish punk/techno:
An upbeat Passover Rap song for mrfisher to enjoy:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olg1efSlvLg

There is a parody song to the tune of Jingle Bells, but I can't seem to find it right now.

 
In the meantime, people can eschew on this for a while:

I mostly go for an Aphrodisian chant. I know it's a niche and not too many people like it but I've always been 'different' :)))

It's inevitable of course because our life experiences are so different. It can be a challenge.  Obviously find areas of common interest and fully explore those topics. And it's also an opportunity for us to learn from them about the world as they see it so don't miss out on that. I find young women who are educated and worldly have not only more to share but are open to hearing about my perspectives, experiences, and judgments. Good luck.

Which providers are actually in their mid twenties? (as opposed to just posting that in their profiles) I’ve seen posts for a few providers who’ve been in their mid twenties for over twenty years.

Boston is a college town, plenty of 20 somethings all year round

That's pretty theoretical.  
In practice, if you search for providers in their 20's, most of those that come up are Asians who are only pretending to be in their 20s. The rest are mostly playing the same game. Others who may actually be in their 20s are working an upsell to their Only Fans accounts.

61 years old here. I would suggest share some favorite music and may be movies and find something in common there. Thing to remember is THEY like some of the things we did in our younger years. WE are mostly unaware of most of the things their generation finds appealing.

I used to find it challenging to understand some of the references and experiences that my suitors had until I realized it was easier to create common ground than find it. I’m in my mid-30s now and have folks I’ve been seeing for almost 10 years. Being able to grow with them (and allowing them to grow me) has been a master course in learning to let things flow and become whatever that looks like for us.  

Yes, I am spectacular, but I know it’s my natural open-mindedness and authenticity that’s kept me in good graces with some of the best people around.

 Instead of trying to know what they know and bridge that info gap by performing “knowledgeable”, I make a point to ask more questions than assume there’s a correct response. It takes the pressure off us both from having to “know” anything. It leaves space for us to share some insight, or a story, or a passion for something they experience from their unique angle.  

I seek to relate to the person having those experiences, not the experiences themselves.  

Nothing is sexier than the passionate person at any age, imo, and I encourage my clients to embrace that side of themselves when we’re together.

Yes there is always that age difference but I find the relationship more transactional than anything else and both sides are fine with it.  
When sugaring a girl in the 18-24 range there definitely is  less common ground and similarities in terms of intimacy and interactions. I keep it simple and more of a relationship as a mentor then a relationship.  They still need bills paid and a way to earn money other than OF or YouTube.  But they all want to be influencers or something like that.

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I'm a senior, and in good shape.

I think I've had maybe one provider turn me down due to my age.

Providers that I see know they'll be treated well. Regardless of age.

As posted elsewhere, I have a really nice, small group of regulars.

Rock on!

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