if any hobbyist has partaken it would be good to post an update

of coarse this is up to you

You "quote" As I mentioned before, not everybody playing is playing even.  This is not a knock to my fellow hobbyists, however some of us aren't looking for the most bangs for our bucks.

I have been invited by Kimberly at Dynasty to meet Leah at 2 pm today. I will report on what I see.

No disrespect PR, but that's hilarious given the irony of your most recent post. Leah's awfully pricey. Just sayin

We all know it happens.  That agency has been getting slammed for having high prices and no reviews.  They've been trying to prove something, and a well known guy posts about prices being too high.  Connect the dots.  The problem is that even if it goes well and they get that first review, there will always be suspicion that it was bought.

I like him, and hopefully he's going to come back saying she's real or not real and admit to only a meet and greet. Because I'd be willing to bet my life he's not forking over 5 benjamims today. More importantly, should he strike a "sweet deal", Leah's gonna have every cry baby in that thread asking her to follow suit.

I remember the days of Sydney & Company. You never heard of this shit going on with her agency.  Nobody messed with Sydney or begged for discounts.  Her girls were 5 star, first class, and men were willing to pay the premium for it. Not to mention the accommodations were first class too.  There has never, and probably never will be another agency like her's in Atlanta. If there were, I'd convert from Indy's.

Are you saying that sydneyandco isn't around anymore? Their website is still up...

I honestly don't know. I know they closed the doors for a while a few years back. Ah, sweet Allison. She was my ATF. The ladies were hot, hot, hot. One in particular withbut name I can't recall, but she was an exchange student. Man, the accent alone was enough to melt a man, along with the red hair and green eyes. She was a beauty.  An afternoon with one of those fine specimens would have cost you a couple to few grand, but the ambience, the ladies, well worth the price of admission. I would like to know if they are still in business though. A website doesn't make it so.

I met Leah at The Cheesecake Factory at 2 pm. We spent almost 2 hours together.  As far as I can tell without a DNA test she is the same lady as in the pics. The things I checked against were things from her description and her photos. She was in heels and was probably an inch or 2 taller than I am. I am 5'9" and the site says she is 5'8. One of her pictures has a good profile showing pouting lips and a good cute chin. She has pouting lips and an adorable chin that quivers when she gets emotional. In her photos I noticed that she has very fine wrists. Leah has very fine, petite wrists. Her waist is very small and her other significant anatomy matched the photos. Oh and her eyes go back and forth from green to blue like an Opal.

She was charming,witty, a good conversationalist and very high energy. I walked her to her vehicle and we exchanged hugs and went on our separate ways. No kiss, no offer of discounts, no free sessions although she insisted on paying the tab at Cheesecake Factory. She is a class act.

She knew from the start that there was no chance for a session. She said that didn't matter and never once acted as if it did. If I was in the position to pay the rates of Dynasty, I would most likely be their newest client. But I won't be. My lose.

Good Hunting!

Pheonix

PR, thanks for taking the time, and being very thorough!

Looks like there is a new player at another price point.

and to feel like he has stolen the food out of a babies mouth by taking advantage of some poor girl who charges more per hour than most doctors and lawyers is fucking absurd.

I don't feel a bit sorry for my lawyer if he gives me an opinion off the clock, and I pay most of my attorneys less per hour than I do the women I sleep with. My attorney also has paralegals, secretaries, rent, insurance etc to pay, expenses that no hooker has to pay, so give me a fucking break about "taking advantage" of these poor young women, get a fucking grip already.

If you have some kind of guilt about having to much money, find a worthwhile charity to give your money to. Five hundred dollar an hour hookers are doing just fine, and if they aren't it's their own damn fault.

You are welcome. If anyone else has an incredibly hot lady they would like me to have lunch with I am available!!  LOL!!

It truly was my pleasure.

I have no doubt that Leah is a beautiful, sweet lady...as I'm sure the rest of the Dynasty crew.

Charge and pay whatever you want, doesnt bother me at all. But,
I could name 5 ladies right now that are in the $275-400 range that are incredible lovers and gorgeous (Genna I'm sure would be one but I have not seen her). Even if all the Dynasty ladies were as good as any of the 5 I mention, when I left seeing one, I'd be mad at myself for spending $150 or so more.

Not saying I will never try them...I never say never...just making a point.. I think lol!

Sir Cumalot

That some are more than happy to pay whatever dollar amount. As I said before I support the agencies and ladies charging whatever they feel meets their needs.

I love a great steak, I won't go to Chops or Bones or Ruth Chris unless it is the most convenient in the moment. I guess I am too plebeian or cheap as some have said. I don't pay for exclusivity. I go to Stoney River, in my shorts, have a  great steak, awesome crab cakes and lobster and come out cheaper and happier than I would is a stuffy Buckhead restaurant. I am not a Buckhead Kinda guy, never have been. Doesn't make me cheap or anything else, it is all just different choices.
As for Genna, in my opinion, she is priced at or below where she should be if others I could name are getting $300 or $350. Genna is in my top 5 all time favorites. And after 27+ years that is saying something.

I van quit busting Kimberly's chops. My humble apologies for ever doubting you, but in ATL, rip-off agencies are a dime a dozen.

Phoenix, I applaud your commitment. Wasn't a total bust. You spent two hours with a lovely lady on a Saturday afternoon at the Cheesecake factory, and Dynasty picked up the check.

And hopefully after Dynasty takes their 50% fee for two hours, Leah will be 500.00 wealthier.

And one last word for Kimberly, although roanoake expresses he will most likely not take the plunge, now that we know you are legit, there will be those of us who indeed will. As I mentioned before, not everybody playing is playing even.  This is not a knock to my fellow hobbyists, however some of us aren't looking for the most bangs for our bucks. There truly is something for everyone in this community. If Leah performs anything like she looks, no doubt she'll do well, and nobody's gonna bat an eye at her rate. Take a look at Eros and cross reference reviews. We've got some high dollar players doing well. Tylor Blake, Morgan Marie, Brooke Monroe, Taylor Atlanta, just to name a few.

Congrats!

Well, it's not rocket science. Playing even meaning we all as many have stated here a hobby limit. I'm PR's earlier post regarding rates, many voiced their opinions that the ladies should keep in mind that many are facing financial hobby challenges due to a bad economy. That's all fine and dandy, but many are not therefore we aren't all playing even.

Listen, I'm not going to spend 1k per hour, I'm not even going to spend 700.00 an hour. 600 is as high as I'm going to go. However, I'm sure I don't hobby as much as many in this community do. Age is a factor, not cash flow.  Some of you may want to hobby three or four days a week which may very well be the reason you demand lower rates. I hobby once a week, and sometimes just once every other so I'm comfortable paying a larger donation.

I meant what I said earlier though.  I think it's a disgrace to ask these ladies to reduce their rates because you have a cash flow problem. Many have children, and no financial support from their ex's. If a provider feels compelled to drop her rate 25.00 an hour because of the whiners, and she averages three per day, you're taking 75.00 a day out of her pantry that feeds, clothes and secures the future of her and her children. When you ask her to reduce her rate, what does she get out of it?  A few shout outs on a discussion board and maybe a good review...if shes lucky?  She still puts the same energy into making you feel special the hour you're there, and what's she getting in exchange?  If you plan to repeat the same lady several times a month then perhaps you're justified in asking her to reduce her rate because in the long run you both benefit. If you ask her so you'll have more money to spend on the next you're planning to conquer and divide that's downright shameful. But they're just providers, right?  Seems to be the consensus... Just look at PR's original thread. Monica got great feedback. Why?  Her girls work "hard" and most take home what?  150.00 an hour?  I hardly see the justice in it, but these are just my thoughts, and the reason I won't use a revolving door agency who appear to exploit young girls knowing they're naive and aren't business savvy enough to demand more.  Like Genna said, lower rates generate more revenue. And nothing personal against Monica but she's got her own financial agenda. I'm sure she didn't become an agency owner because she's an adrenaline junky, looking to help youngnwomen get their best start in life or provide access to job training.  I doubt she likes the task of avoiding LE, or for the greater good of this board, and the whiners she caters to.  And let's not just single her about. What about popular Jaz with her arrogant post of being at the beach, and referencing how much bank she'll make and when long gone, we'll all still be here with the same issues. Hey, that's okay with you?  I personally find it offensive that while she works her girls for next to nothing, you applaud it as she rubs your nose in it. But...just the nature of the beast.

I say start a new trend...rather than whining, poor me, I can't afford it, stick to what you can afford and be happy with it. Perhaps even allow higher rate ladies to post their ads without complaining they arent catering to what the market will bear.  These ladies know what works for them. There's a larger market than those sniveling about their own.

Maybe even have a provider appreciation week, and rather than asking her to "treat you special" for no good reason (really because you can't afford it), reverse it and give her a bonus. Let's face it, few of us are studs in the bed, or have the Clooney looks so we should be grateful these ladies invite us with open arms into their personal space.

That's all I got to say about it anymore. Clearly we all have differing opinions. Some on other spectrums

While a Honda can certainly get one around town as reliably as any other car make, there's something to be said about driving an Aston Martin or Ferrari.

All you established is that there is an attractive woman working with the agency who likes cheesecake.  I've heard people complain about the rate, but frankly I haven't heard enough to open my wallet to check if I could cover the donation.  I'm guessing that she's pretty enough to buy cheesecake for, but there are several important questions remaining.  For example, is she the girl that will show up if I called for Leah?  Does she provide service commensurate with her rate?  Are the other women real?  Now, PR, this isn't a slam at you.  You got some intel for the rest of us.  It's just that I don't jump out of planes without watching my parachute get packed and I don't see providers without a good sense of what I'm getting.

I'm with you on that one. I'm not one to TOFTT.  I stick with my regulars HOWEVER, if the girl he had lunch does show up, and her service commensurates, Atlanta is going to have another wonderful addition.

The jury is still out on some of the pics on her site. Only times gonna tell with this agency.  I suggest Kimberly allow all her girls to join Phoenix for lunch for more intel. I'm sure he'd hate the idea, but with a little encouragement and support, perhaps we can sway him.

Perhaps rather than Kimberly offering discounted sessions to encourage reviewers, she can announce a money back guarantee. I know a well reviewed lady who advertises this, so it's not unheard of.  A satisfaction guarantee, or the session is free. Win/win if she's legit and service commensurates.  

The high line make and model's tend to have less wear and tear, theyre appropriately maintained, and more likely traded with low mileage.

I might even be convinced to kick in a couple bucks towards the cheesecake.

Hey GAG, bout time you showed up.... lol  ... I didn't want to be the only one about to puke after reading some of this BS.

I thought I could do this without a couple of negative assholes turning it into a train wreck.

If I should ever be asked to meet another of your ladies I will report back but only through PM and only to those who can show respect for others.

To Leah, I had an incredible time with you today. In my opinion, any man would be fortunate to be with you, even if only for lunch!!

Peace!

Pheonix

it's a provider's prerogative to request any donation amount of her choosing.

It's not a question about justification via expenses and the like, but rather one of simple choice.

A provider can choose her donation rate. Clients can choose to pay it or not.

that a money-back guarantee is applicable in this specific situation.

Unlike other products sold with money-back guarantees, a provider's services can't be returned by the client after the fact for a refund. Since services have already been rendered by the provider, it's only fair that the client compensates her.

Read the post before you get your boxers in a bunch. I wasn't referring to our high dollar ladies. In case you didn't notice, Atlanta has few who advertise here because of loud mouth's who wanna be just like you who piss moan groan, and attack their rates and ask for for favors because they haven't the funds to play the major leagues.  Im guessing this forum is the porch, the loud mouths the pups, and the big dogs are off running wild.  

Now, I know it's lengthy but go back and read before you get mad at me GAG. There should be a ""GAG order" issued.

If you re-read my thoughts, I'm not referring to the 500.00 up ladies, we know they're okay cause we rarely hear a peep out of them. I'm referrimg mostly to the ladies earning 100-150 after their glorified pimps take their "agency fees".



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...and again, what would be the point of going to all this trouble to scam one client and then lose all their business?

I'm personally satisfied at this point that they aren't a bait and switch organization.

oh yeah, then I had to get laid first. lol

and I find your reference to "glorified pimps" insulting to the many reputable agency owners in this city.

A girl who nets $150 hr free and clear, no taxes, no overhead, no responsibilty, ect is still doing five time better than the average guy here, so I repeat, "Give me a fucking break"

Where the fuck else is an unskilled twenty something going to make that kind of money? Where the fuck is the "average Joe" going to make that kind of money for that matter?

and where have I ever pissed, moaned, or groaned about what a provider charges? I have stated on numerous ocassions that a provider can charge whatever the fuck she wants, and if she can get a grand an hour, then good for her. I won't pay anywhere near that much, but that's just a personal choice.

As for loud mouths and getting off the porch, I spend much more on this hobby than most guys make, and I have as big a mouth as anyone on this board. I've earned the right to voice my opinion and I've earned the right to call bullshit on the likes of you.

I have a suggestion, why don't you save your pity for the poor college student waiting tables or working two jobs to get through school, or the poor schmuck who can't even afford to hobby at all because he's being a man and putting his family first? Those people deserve defending, not some twenty year old who can't make ends meet, even when knocking down a couple of grand a week.

They always have to make it a train wreck! We both and many of our friends just need to take a break from this DRAMA and go elsewhere.  Ladies and real Gentlemen, see you in a few!

Phoenix, thank you for taking the time out of your day to meet Leah and to post about it. If the true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good, then you are setting the bar.  Well- she did buy lunch (much to my horror- she is clearly nicer than I am!) so I suppose you did get something out of it lol.

You're wrong, just fucking admit it.

and feel free to ignore me if you can't take the fucking heat.

For all your bloviating, you really are a little pussy aren't you?

If you had a valid arguement you would have made it. I reread your post, I suggest you do the same. Everyone else here is free to do the same, the facts will speak for themselves.

I just bugs the fuck out of you that you can't shoehorn me into the "too poor" to afford to hobby category, nor can you find any posts I have ever made complaining about rates.

I hobby the way I want to, and although your opinion means nothing to me, I will continue to call you out whenever you make a baseless, "he-cunt" type post, which seems to happen on a regular basis with you.

But come on smart guy, find a post where I have complained about providers rates, I fucking dare you.

I'm amused by Gambler's posts, sometimes yours and calling me a jerk-off because it is entertaining, like most of this thread, hurts my little jerk-off feelings.

There is a little message you and every single user clicks when entering this site warranting your agreement (and understanding):

"IMPORTANT! YOU MUST READ THE FOLLOWING AND AGREE:"

"This site is purely for entertainment purposes. We imply nothing else."


Did someone in this thread accuse someone else of a "comprehension" problem?

Ok, so I guess I have to admit listening to your claims of knowledge of how to treat ladies is entertaining and calling me jerk-off because I find Gambler's posting entertaining, I must be a totally entertained jerk-off.

So let me say it in a way you can:

I don't give a flying fuck what about me you find offensive. I'm not here to read your loud mouth, obnoxious, self richeous posts. As BashfulJohn said on the GB, you're a "nose picker" part of some stupid club, surrounded by other loud mouth jerks desensitized thinking your input, and constant presence here has some "value".   Perhaps to some it does, but me, not so much. We come from other sides of the track buddy. I don't view women anything like you. Your're a filthy, loud mouth jerk!

f you don't like what I've got to say, don't read it!

Go fuck yourself!

as I would have treated the lady to lunch.

At the very least, I would have insisted that we split the bill.

But that's just me.

one's income or earning potential. There are examples of ladies who have generated a decent amount of income despite their apparent lack of skills.

The most recent one that comes to mind is that of Kate Middleton, the commoner who wed Prince William and hence became the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

Kate, or Catherine as she now wants to be called, graduated from college but only held 2 jobs in the 8 years afterwards. Her first job was at an upscale boutique called Jigsaw where she worked only 11 months. Her next job came several years later where she worked at her parents online party supplies business for only 1.5 years.

Despite this unambitious work history, Catherine is now in line to receive and share the Queen of England's financial fortune, estimated in the hundreds of millions of US dollars.

Not bad for a young lady with an apparent lack of skills.

So, I suppose we'll be meeting at Macy's soon?

I want a front row seat, cause if Brittany is as hot as she sounds on the phone, I want to be your second!!

Put me in coach!!!

You've always gotta get the last word. You're wrong. The ONLY reference I made to ladies earning over 150.00 an hour was the high dollars who don't participate here anymore because of loud mouth assholes who clearly have no respect for women.  You know, those like you.

The only value you bring to the board is amusement by other jerk off's who find your classless, loud mouth assertions and tales of far away places fucking islanders who dont speak your language... Stupid, for dummies.  You're a disgrace to men who value the ladies who service us... Referring to them as "hookers" rather than
Escorts proves you've got issues. No wonder you've gotta take the opportunity to TOFTT, attend a m&g
or go to third world places to get laid. Who the fuck would knowingly want to service a jackass?

My post again, is directed at ladies who earn 100.00 to 150.00 after agencies take their pimp fee. Take 75.00 a day discounts out of the equation for these young girls who have the pleasure of fucktards like you.  You've made it abundantly clear you're one of em. I'm not arguing that, just find you to be an obnoxious jack ass. You've made your point, as I've made mine.

I'm off to see MsBlueeyes. She's got talent

So TER cannot be held responsible for their participation in illegal activities, but come on... seriously?   Your comment is not so clever, as I get the jist. I'm sure everybody here does so your sarcasm goes without saying.  

Furthermore, should you find it entertainingI...my comments, we could all show a little respect to the ladies who serve us,  that's your problem and between yourself and the lady who spends time with you.

There are a lot of nasty, fucked up, crazy, vindictive, jealous, insecure, rotten people who participate in this "underground" play space. I think there's a good possibility you've identified yourselves. All I had to do is post from a different point of view, and the uglies came crawling out from under their rocks.

I'm done with this conversation. But I do appreciate all the positive "female" feedback I've received.

I think omega is another intellectual player that intimidates the fuck out of the knuckleheads who have nothing of any value to contribute to this board. It's always the same old shit, the same old 411's, the same old nasty comments when pricey ladies post, and the same old ass kissers, kissing your butt buddies ass.

You guys hobby these boards,lol. You read reviews, make trouble on the board for differing opinions, and live vicariously through those who don't have to beg these already low rate providers pimped by their madams for additional discounts and favors.  Geese, id be one angry SOB too if a stand up guy like myself called you out for being a filthy, rotten sloth.

Why don't you swine's let it go, and let the madams/pimps get back to showcasing their young talent while you check your bank balance to see if you can come out and play

not my intention to intimidate anyone in this forum, or in real life for that matter, with my posts. If I have, then it was inadvertent and I do apologize for that.

I certainly believe that everyone is entitled to their opinions, preferably without resorting to insults and vulgarity.

With the offering of opinions, I believe that people should expect and entertain a certain amount of scrutiny, so long as its rendered in a constructive, non-mocking or belligerent manner.

Finally, I've noted that a few posters believe that opinions aren't credible if the poster hasn't amassed a certain number of published reviews. I believe that supposition is in error as some members choose not to write reviews.

As I've mentioned before, I choose not to write reviews because I don't want to deal with any potentially defensive reactions from providers, not to mention the incredible amount of subjectivity and variables in the process.

Providers, much like us clients, are people with feelings that don't deserve to be treated like products being reviewed by Consumer Reports. I choose to respect their feelings and not nitpick every little thing.

If I were to come across negligent or dangerous behavior, that would certainly merit a public warning. But I've yet to come across anything even remotely like that, which I credit to MY provider screening skills.

I find your posts intelligent, and you always maintain your cool.

Reviewing isn't necessary to gain credibility. The only credibility that concerns me is when attempting to schedule with the provider i wish to visit. Many of these guys spewing review credibility haven't done it in years. I don't read reviews anymore anyway. I have no interest in what another man is doing with someone I want to see, instead I look at the scores, and cross reference with her pics.

reading your posts, as they are in abundance of keen wit and clever humor.

...we're paying women to have sex with us, right?

Sir Cumalot

Im staying out of this..
May I ask you what you call Sydney of Sydney and company? You have such glowing things to say about her agency.  Is she a lowlife Pimp/Madam too? She took 50% from her girls 500 an hour.. Did ya know that? I dont take that!


You disparage hard working Madams such as myself.. That are fair and treat everyone well.. You call me a pimp....? Would you like to pay 1 months worth of my bills? 1 months worth of my advertising? I wish I could show you all I put out versus what I take in... Theres Also everything I do for the girls, IF you knew the time I spend herding madwomen, you would be ashamed of yourself!  Then you would never say such trashy things about me and a couple of others in the Industry here. Please do not lump us all together.

tyvm,P.T.

Well, for starters, I understand why Sydney takes half. The incall alone was 5 star.   I can assure you it's like none other. Crystal chandalier's, rose wood, bernardt furniture, Italian marble baths/showers. Merlot's, bubbly, chocolate covered strawberries, plush bathrobes, and the most exquisite ladies decked out in la perla, or something along the lines of gucci. Sydney had maybe 3 or 4 ladies working for her at a time, and you never ran into a situation where you've got other ladies sitting around a living space, or hear other men in the home.  There were no hour dates either. For an experience like her's you wouldn't want to anyway.

I'm not knocking you Bianca.  But ever wonder why you're herding mad women?  Look at the guys on this board. Please excuse my candor, but theyre greedy pigs. Your girls seem nice, and young. I'd be pissed too if I had to fuck one of these pigs at a reduced rate.  I don't agree with extremely low rates in an agency setting because I know the types most these girls gotta bed down. I'm a man, good intuition.

Where I'm really miffed is with the arrogance of madams who refer to themselves like gangsta's...call me Boss, call me jasmimetheboss. I find her disparaging, arrogant, and I believe she's nothing but a loose cannon with a chip on her shoulder. But hey, "she rocks". Khori says she's a class act, lmao, and these cheap ass cry babies love her because she's practically giving pussy away. What's not to love.

Everybody needs a wake up call. Tiffany talbot made a very striking remark, although in good humor about unionizing the biz. Not a bad idea IMHO. I'd like to see more of these loud mouth sloths join gambler in costa rica rather than attempt to widdle these girls wages down to nothing, so they can afford to mount and get drained of every drop in exchange for a good review. Get these losers back where they belong...trolling the alleys for 50.00 car sex. TER didn't only bring the SW's here, but they're fucked up clientele too.

Look at 99% of the 411's for info...CL, and Backpage. Trolls, trolling for info on ladies offering 15 min sessions in rat infested dumps with hour rates of 100.00. TER didn't always cater to the bottom feeding sloths but indeed a new trend is here. I'd hate to think any lady I visit, has had the displeasure of one of these scum bags.  Not you, but It's my belief, and intuition telling me some "well respected madams" are recruiting these girls, cleanimg them up with some decent, half ass pics and serving them up like some kind of superstars, when the reality is, they aren't.

If these indigent sex junkies don't like my opinion, they can fuck off.

why a certain percentage of agency ladies often decide to strike out on their own and become independents or jump ship to another agency, in spite of all the services provided by the agency (screening, scheduling, drivers, protection, etc.).

BTW I also have no posted reviews on TER, and my credibilty is unquestioned in this community. So much for that theory.

Many people might not like me, but noone of any credence himself doubts my credibility for a moment.

You two OTOH have no credibility whatsoever, you are just a couple of nameless, faceless, posters without a spine, trying to curry favor with the ladies by saddling up your white horses everytime you believe a ladies honor is in jeopardy, no matter how unfounded.

BTW if you don't use the reviews and you plainly look at the rest of us with disdain for not meeting your high moral standards on a fucking hooker board, just What the fuck are you doing here in the first place?

I've never had the slightest issue with the decor or the quality of the locating.

As for PT being a pimp, I guess that makes every other agency owner a pimp as well, I had no idea that I had so many pimps as friends. BTW some of the agency owners that I consider friends have never received  a penny from me, so our friendships were not based on the almighty dollar.

As hard as our little douchebag PMking may try to deny it, not all friendships in this business are based on money. Believe it or not, some people in this town actually like even and admitted asshole like me. Come to think of it though, I don't see too many ladies, or gents lining up to back up PMking and his little butt buddy Omega. It appears the community is solidly in the other camp, both providers and hobbyists alike.

Despite my differences with PT, even I can't sit back a listen to some nobody call her and every other agency owner a "pimp"

If what you claim to be is true 120.00 is unacceptable. But how do you know she's telling you the truth?

Maybe she left on bad terms, and some advice i think you should stop with the use of the word "PIMP" to describe these ladies.

Now i don't no these ladies personally, but "PIMPS"  beat working gals and take all the money, i don't believe these ladies are doing this.

Just take some time and think about what a "PIMP" really is before throwing that word around.

personally I have had a giant hangover all day and fucking with you has helped  my headache. Thank you for amusing me.

BTW where do you get that I am angry at women? It's you that I don't respect, not the women here.

AAR I am bored know, I don't plan on continuing this little chat any longer, well today at least. I have about a half a dozen hotties to meet in a couple of hours.

No I am right here in Atlanta.

I can't speak for the majority, but the few I've seen who started with agencies, and struck out on their own voiced they wanted the ability to decide for themselves which clients they would see, and of course money is a factor.  Who wouldn't want to take home 100% of their earnings. 

For a young woman with absolutely no knowledge of how to get started, working with an agency for a short time may provide education of the hobby, trainimg on how to screen effectively, and how to avoid LE. I can assume agency "jumpers" are looking for a place where they feel appreciated, the other ladies are pleasant to work with, etc.  Going back to Genna's post...some owners don't care if the young woman is on her back all day. They're concern is with keeping the client happy so they don't leave, run to the PC, and report back negative info. Just look at PR's post, and even more recent GAG's. Talk about pressure for a new agency, or a newcomer...first TER hobbyist being Gambler?  I personally think that's a game of Russian roulette, but maybe Dynasty has yet to be fully educated in how one loud mouth hobbyist can effect the future of the agency on TER.  Look at big man's butt buddies...bad feedback, and his little robots will follow suit. Hope the girl he visits with is willing to make a really good impression on the loud mouth chauvinist she's preparing to meet.  Dynasty has already illustrated weakness by giving in to these fucktards. Leah had lunch...a two hour lunch, and the so called seasoned hobbyist allowed her to pick up the check. Wow, what a freeloading sloth. Poor Leah.  And PR, id be ashamed. Who does that?

Personally, I think Dynasty needs to stay the course...no more "try before you buy". Who does this?  Ladies???  Nobody. And Gambler of all people?  He needs to pay the fee, and show up ready for session. But this "I may decide after we meet" is bullshit and he knows it. Dynasty has satisfied enough questions. Leah is legit. Get to business, let the reviews be building blocks, and quit allowing the sloths to tell you how things are gonna go. She's preparing herself to allow these fucktards to dictate how she runs her biz. 

I do have an ulterior motive though- I just couldn't get masondixon's offer out of my mind.

Did ya know that one of Sydneys ladies.. worked with me before AND after sydney and co. She actually retired from the biz a few months ago.She worked with me as Melanie and a few here know her... I think she was called Jamie there.. or was it Brandy.. I forget.. She stayed with sydney a couple of years.. Couldnt take the drama...Madwomen charge all sortsa prices and work in all sortsa places... Yes Sydney had lovely furniture. I cant say I have crystal chandeliers but, I have a very nice place with nice furniture and art work.. 400 count linens and alla that too.. and never felt the need to charge the girls 50% for it. I personally know Sydney from the 90's we worked together. So please do not hold her to a higher standard than I.. Because you do not know her other than knowing her furnishings are lovely. So was Sydney Bottom feeding when she hired my girl?? Did she "dress her and clean her up" after sleekride??? Theres also Sydney girls that worked at ER.. Was Sydney bottom feeding there too?

In my years I have found that Most of you guys do not care at all about the surroundings! I had the displeasure of  going to a competitors incall a couple of months ago.. they were subletting the apartment. I almost PUKED when I got there. The furniture looked like what was found on the street.. fabric remnannts as table cloths to cover endtables that were cardboard boxes and the STENCH.. The tubs were black the toilets were black it was thoroughly disgusting! My friend did sublet it and it took 2 days to clean that place  up.. so the point being that You are a minority.     I wish you were not the minority but you are.

I use the word Madwomen as a term of endearment not as a put down... Its a mad mad mad mad world....

tyvm,P.T.

what any decent person would do and that's treat others with respect, regardless of whether I agree with their opinions or not. This also includes not having to resort to insults, baseless accusations, or vulgarity.

If that should be held in high regard by others in this forum, providers and clients alike, that's great. But I do it because it's who I am as a person, whether in a forum such as this or in real life.

some dynamics are different here in Atlanta.

That posts on this board, you and Bella are the only two I can stomach.  Monica with her "she has spoken". Lol, who cares?  And Jas, the BOSS. More like, the "victim".  I applaud you for giving your ladies a higher percentage. I realize there's overhead, but theyve got to do the work.

I had a lady send an email after my post who is a 400.00 Indy. She worked with one of the so called "reputable" agencies like a dog for 120.00 an hour after agency PIMP fee. There's a clear difference in administrative fee's, and employee "rape". Glad to know you're not a 50%.

I have little doubt a Sydney model worked with you. You appear to be knowledgeable, and avoid the drama others seem to thrive on.

All the best in your continued success, and that of your models.

Posted By: phone terrorist

Did ya know that one of Sydneys ladies.. worked with me before AND after sydney and co. She actually retired from the biz a few months ago.She worked with me as Melanie and a few here know her... I think she was called Jamie there.. or was it Brandy.. I forget.. She stayed with sydney a couple of years.. Couldnt take the drama...Madwomen charge all sortsa prices and work in all sortsa places... Yes Sydney had lovely furniture. I cant say I have crystal chandeliers but, I have a very nice place with nice furniture and art work.. 400 count linens and alla that too.. and never felt the need to charge the girls 50% for it. I personally know Sydney from the 90's we worked together. So please do not hold her to a higher standard than I.. Because you do not know her other than knowing her furnishings are lovely. So was Sydney Bottom feeding when she hired my girl?? Did she "dress her and clean her up" after sleekride??? Theres also Sydney girls that worked at ER.. Was Sydney bottom feeding there too?

In my years I have found that Most of you guys do not care at all about the surroundings! I had the displeasure of  going to a competitors incall a couple of months ago.. they were subletting the apartment. I almost PUKED when I got there. The furniture looked like what was found on the street.. fabric remnannts as table cloths to cover endtables that were cardboard boxes and the STENCH.. The tubs were black the toilets were black it was thoroughly disgusting! My friend did sublet it and it took 2 days to clean that place  up.. so the point being that You are a minority.     I wish you were not the minority but you are.

I use the word Madwomen as a term of endearment not as a put down... Its a mad mad mad mad world....

tyvm,P.T.

comes down to choice.

The providers are free to choose whether they wish to continue working for agencies that give their employees a lower percentage.

The agency owners are free to choose whatever percentage they wish to give to their employees.

Clients are free to choose whether they wish to see providers who charge higher-than-average donation fees.

With the ability to choose for ourselves so overwhelmingly abundant, I sometimes wonder why there's even any discord to begin with.

Posted By: pmking

That posts on this board, you and Bella are the only two I can stomach.  Monica with her "she has spoken". Lol, who cares?  And Jas, the BOSS. More like, the "victim".  I applaud you for giving your ladies a higher percentage. I realize there's overhead, but theyve got to do the work.

I had a lady send an email after my post who is a 400.00 Indy. She worked with one of the so called "reputable" agencies like a dog for 120.00 an hour after agency PIMP fee. There's a clear difference in administrative fee's, and employee "rape". Glad to know you're not a 50%.

I have little doubt a Sydney model worked with you. You appear to be knowledgeable, and avoid the drama others seem to thrive on.

All the best in your continued success, and that of your models.

Posted By: phone terrorist

Did ya know that one of Sydneys ladies.. worked with me before AND after sydney and co. She actually retired from the biz a few months ago.She worked with me as Melanie and a few here know her... I think she was called Jamie there.. or was it Brandy.. I forget.. She stayed with sydney a couple of years.. Couldnt take the drama...Madwomen charge all sortsa prices and work in all sortsa places... Yes Sydney had lovely furniture. I cant say I have crystal chandeliers but, I have a very nice place with nice furniture and art work.. 400 count linens and alla that too.. and never felt the need to charge the girls 50% for it. I personally know Sydney from the 90's we worked together. So please do not hold her to a higher standard than I.. Because you do not know her other than knowing her furnishings are lovely. So was Sydney Bottom feeding when she hired my girl?? Did she "dress her and clean her up" after sleekride??? Theres also Sydney girls that worked at ER.. Was Sydney bottom feeding there too?

In my years I have found that Most of you guys do not care at all about the surroundings! I had the displeasure of  going to a competitors incall a couple of months ago.. they were subletting the apartment. I almost PUKED when I got there. The furniture looked like what was found on the street.. fabric remnannts as table cloths to cover endtables that were cardboard boxes and the STENCH.. The tubs were black the toilets were black it was thoroughly disgusting! My friend did sublet it and it took 2 days to clean that place  up.. so the point being that You are a minority.     I wish you were not the minority but you are.

I use the word Madwomen as a term of endearment not as a put down... Its a mad mad mad mad world....

tyvm,P.T.

By the way GAG. Ive not seen any ladies step up to defend you either. Only your butt buds. Don't you have a board to moderate?  Why do you continue try and "one up me"?  I'm happy to continue challenging your beligerant, obnoxious, chauvinist ways if it makes you happy to continue demonstrating what a jackass you are.

someone who's disillusioned about the transactional relationship that exists between a provider and her client.

Similarly, I'll never confuse a provider's charming, friendly, or flirtatious behavior as an invitation to engage in a meaningful, long-term, exclusive dating relationship outside the confines of our transactional engagement.

She did not leave on bad terms either, although agency owner didn't want her commodity to depart.

You're absolutely right, pimp is a strong word. Although not all pimps beat their ladies. But from this day on, I'll address them correctly, as panderer's

had me laughing out loud and is just one example of your wit and humor.

Your admission that pimp was a strong word had me moving down a train of thought until you did a 180* snap turn with your addressing them as panderers instead.

Or if the academy of "nose pickers" does either. The ladies who adore me, find me "in-credible".

Nobody's doubting my credibility either other than you, and your "nose picking posse".

I'm not attempting to curry favor. I don't need it, I've got cash to curry all the favors I need GAG, so why don't you just shut your mouth about it. Honestly, every time you comment on my post, you dig yourself a bigger hole, asshole that is. Do you think the majority of the ladies who frequent this board appreciate your in your face style of disrespect towards them?  Lol. Of course not, but we know you could give a shit, right?  You've got what credibility?  You appear to be an insecure boob. If you were half the "big shot" you claim, you'd STFU. Walk soft with a big stick. You're simply a big mouth with no nut sack.  Nobody in their right mind that really has it all so well put together would continue spewing the shit that comesnout of your mouth!  Who the hell gives a flying fuck what your opinion on a "whore board" is. I certainly don't, so why don't you stay off my posts. We've both clearly established we have very different personalities. I was raised by a woman who loved me and nurtured me, therefore instilling I treat women kimd, and with respect. Your clear disrespect for "hookers" would lead one to believe you were adopted by a woman who told you're nothing but a stupid little bastard. Where's the anger towards women coming from, or your neednto appear like some big shot on these boards. You're a Fuckimg moderator for goodness sakes, is that some big accomplishment?

Get off my posts if you don't like what I have to say. I picture you some short, middle aged, pot-bellied loudmouth, with no formitable success to speak of other than your board persona of some big shot "gambler".  Thats the image you project for me based on your ignorant come backs.  I mean come on. I don't give a flying fuck if you find me credible or not.  And my reason for being here is frankly, none of your concern, big guy.

Why do I have to be either or those things? Those words negate all the good that I bring to the table. Those words are for a different type of person in a different enviroment than what I provide. Those words make you think of other words like coersion and manipulation.. The unspoken intention. Those words are not part of my reality.

tyvm,P.T.

I wish my wife found me amusing still. If she did, doubt id be here.   Glad my humor amuses someone here. Pity I've received so many messages from ladies who appreciate me standing up for them, but refuse to take sides or publickly say thanks for fear against retaliation. Sucks, but the board bullies know they can make a woman look bad with their sniveling alias attacks.

Thanks!

B,

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't know why...perhaps because prostitution is illegal, and LE is going to target an agency before they target an Indy.  You can sugar coat it all you want. I admire your tenacity, but asking why you can't just be a booking agent is like asking why I can't pass legislation to legalize prostitution.  It is what it is

COMPLETlY FALSE! LOL They Target Indys!!! LOL Agencys rarely get busted hon unless you have neighbors complaining... For every agency that gets busted 50 indys or agency gals doin outcalls.. get busted... Then that still doesnt get back to the agency. unless the girl rats.. but she can only rat what she knows... If she rats no one comes to get her out... She knows that.. LE is not your friend.. They do no favors.
LE feel that a lady by herself in a hotel room is a danger to herself! Theyre right IMHO...They feel theyre protecting them. They know an agency apartment with a couple 2/3 people there.. Is basicly safe. If you only knew how many gals get raped, robbed and abused in hotel rooms! I personally KNOW a few gals that have been handcuffed to the bed.. Till the maid comes in... Loads that were just raped.. or just robbed or raped and robbed! Happens more than you would think... 95% of the busts are outcalls...  I only know of 2 agencys ..one was gotten Twice.. That have been busted here in the past 3 years..Theres been a couple of close calls at another but thats it.. I know of at least 100 girls on their own doin outcall that got busted in that time and that figure is low...

You will never convince me that Im a panderer or a Pimp no matter how LE has their laws written.. Those are their words.. They shouldnt be used here by someone that is a part of this community.. Especialy towards another member here...We are suppossed to be of like mind

tyvm,P.T.

you've received thanks from many providers who refuse to take sides or publicly support your position for fear of retaliation.

Like many successful businesses that depend on loyal customers, providers follow the golden rule that the customer is always right. As such, it would be bad business for them to publicly take your side against the majority.

However, you can take tremendous solace in the fact that they haven't publicly taken a position against you, which speaks volumes in and of itself.

Excuse me if I'm wrong. I assume LE preys on careless Indy's because they're easy targets...those who don't screen. But I do believe LE spends years attempting to infiltrate agencies like Miami Companions for instance. What a win for LE.

And I do beg your pardwe lithe people participating in this forum are not like-minded. Hence this long drawn out thread. I'm 100% for consenting adults exchanging cash for companionship though.

Between agency and Indy, you'll be the first call.

Stay cool!