I OTOH often pick a Korean, or Mexican, or even an Italian girl to go along with what I plan on having for dinner that night which makes so much more sense. lol
It is funny, in Texas the Asian girls really don't charge much, if any less than their White, Brown or Black counterparts. The oldest K-girl agency in Dallas charges $300 hr which is right in line, or maybe just a little less than most Independents charge here.
I'm a lucky over 60 gentleman who lives in Las Vegas. As for providers here, I feel Vegas is like a fine French bakery. You can find what you want at the price you can afford almost any time. The most beautiful women can be yours for 500, 600, or 700 an hour. Sometimes even less. Some also include Greek and PSE at those prices.. And I mean stunning women.
Here is my gripe: I know the "My body, my rules" always applies, but what is this 1000, 1100, and 1200 an hour and up for women who provide nothing more special, (mostly touring, new women, or very young california weekend visitors). Been in Vegas 20 years and this just seems new these last 2 years. Or is it just me? Other cities too?
..and I was really hoping everyone else was as bored with the rates discourse as I am. Alas, since it keeps coming up over and over and over, I'll chime in this time around.
Companions who charge what some or many clients may perceive to be too much do so because they want to and because they can. That answer should be enough. It is someone else's body and only they can determine what the parameters should be for others to have the privilege of sharing intimate space with them. How "limited" a companion's menu is or how they do or don't fit into normative beauty / body standards matters much less that the average review culture obsessed client likes to admit. The reality is human desire is immensely complex. It only takes a handful of suitors who gladly pay quote, unquote high rates to make it worthwhile for those companions. And why exactly another client thinks paying more than you do makes sense is not really your business.
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...are you NOT a consumer???
You really don't understand why men would talk about rates on a board devoted to paying women for sex???? Seriously????
Don't you and your GF's talk about the prices of hand bags, dresses, shoes, cars, fine dining, etc? I am sure you do.
Why does it bother you so much that men would talk about the pricing in a business where MANY of the women are charging $500/hour, $1000/hour and up? It would seem VERY odd to me if we DIDNT discuss it often.
What if all the lawyers that once charged $250 hr 15 years ago had raised their rates to $500 hr over the years because that's what lawyers charge today in certain markets, but then a few newcomers, with only average skills and no real resumes to speak of entered the market asking $1,000 hr. How many people would just accept the fact that they are "worth it" because they say they are?
As you so accurately point out, we are consumers, and this a board created for US to discuss things like price, service, what we like, what we don't like, etc. So many providers seem to think that TER was created as a place for them to get free advertising and the us as consumers should just shut up and pay them what they ask. Well sorry ladies, but that is NOT why TER was created, it was created so us whore mongers could compare notes and get the best value for the considerable money we spend on this little "hobby" of ours. Can you imagine if our hobby was building model airplanes and the suppliers were constantly interrupting our conversations to tell us that it was none of our business what they charged for glue? lol
...are you NOT a consumer???
..Don't you and your GF's talk about the prices of hand bags, dresses, shoes, cars, fine dining, etc? I am sure you do..
But I'm not sitting around on the internet campaigning for The St. Regis to only charge $250 per night instead of $711 per night when I can just book at the Sheraton instead. And speaking of fine dining, just this week I went to a lovely establishment and got an $18 cocktail and it was the first time I spent so much on one. It was superb and I ordered one more knowing that generally I'm a $13-15 per cocktail kind of gal. But I'm not going to picket Fine & Rare's owners for selling $18 or $21 cocktails just because there are bars with cheaper drinks. To me, the difference is a matter of aggression and entitlement. I passively refrain from making purchases I can't afford or don't want to all the time without making a big to-do about it.
Come on Lena. No one believes you, or anyone, who says they don't bitch about the pricing of some things from time to time. That is ridiculous. You would be the only person on the planet not to do so on occasion. Lol
And no one was "campaigning" for anyone to do anything and NO one "took digs at individuals." No specific girl was mentioned by me or the OP, so where in the world did you get that from?
All the OP did was comment that he was surprised the amount of women now charging $1000 or more/hr and wondered if others were seeing the same thing.
That didn't sound like a "campaign" to me at all, just an observation about the stunning rise with some gals rates lately so I have no clue where you got "aggression and entitlement" from anything I or the OP might have said.
Please explain.
I am curious about why people passionately mention money or price? If there is an item or experience you WANT---then wouldn't it be great to just "do it!" ? Quite often, it isn't unusual...perhaps 90% of people have been conditioned to allow external circumstances.....like what does something cost, or the economy, or co-worker, or a "boss"....to obstruct someone from achieving the results they want in life...or just decide what they want and then the resources are available or somehow the resources will be available so we can enjoy a purchase. THink a Rolex watch if we like, the time and companionship or modeling, a home, a 2nd home or condo, a vechicle.....whether that vehicle is a 12 year old Toyota Camry or a brand new BMW, etc. Many of the wonderful coaches are helping people to turn a 180 from what "society" teaches about money paradigms, money psychology....because it is not GOOD it is not BAD-no right nor wrong--just that we have the power to decide and choose....abundance and infinite resources and potential......OR we can choose scarcity, finite resources and be oppressed. I would venture to think those with the higher fee....are low volume, enjoy the moment and not encounter the "tire kickers" or "cheapskates". Then again, I would rather have someone tell me their time is worth 1,200 than to agree to 400 and every 5 minutes "upselling" by 100 for this, 200 for more intimacy, 350 more is special, etc......nickel & diming to 1,800 or more...THAT is the behavior that I don't enjoy! I would never criticize someone with a low price....nor criticize someone with a high price.....just understand the experience is always different with each person, and choose wisely the engagement that fits 
Or at least it's not happening "as much" anywhere. I have heard from lots of guys in NY, LA and LV where there seems to be a flood of HDH's charging a grand or more per hour, and as you said, without anything terribly remarkable about them, especially where it comes to reviews. I can't speak for everywhere, but I will say in Texas at least women charging those kind of rates, while it does happen, are still rather rare. The "going rate" in most of Texas is still in the $300-400 hr range with a handful of ladies charging $500 hr.
Personally I am a believer in the old saying "There is a sucker born every minute" and IMO anyone who thinks he is going to have a better time with a lady charging a grand an hour because "you get what you pay for" is also the kind of guy who believes the bottle of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay the waiter in the fancy restaurant is pushing on him for $75 is somehow any better than the same bottle in the liquor store for 15 bucks. It's my belief that once you get over a certain rate, I'd say $500 hr in Texas and probably a couple of hundred bucks over that in LV, that the quality of service goes DOWN not up because you are dealing with a woman with a sense of "entitlement"
That said, "My body, my rules" most certainly does apply and I fully support a woman's right to charge what ever she wants to, but I still reserve the right to laugh at the guys who really think they are buying "quality" by agreeing to pay double the going rate.
As per usual thank you for your common sense GA. I was taken back by her tone as it was simply my observation and like the stock market past performance is no indication of future results.
Also I note that the top 100 performers as rated by TER hobbiests in general charge way below the 1000 hr threshold.
Will keep to my self from now on because I'm happy in Vegas for a low volumn oldster!
Peace
I did my own sampling of girls in different price ranges, and my conclusion was there was not much difference between a $500 per hour girl and $1000 girl, except the price. A $500/hr girl usually gave me the same service of girls charging more. After the first year I discovered Kgirls,, and the I started getting the same service for even less. I still see some non-Asian girls. Sometimes, you just want a white, black or brown girl that matches what you're wearing that day. Lol
I OTOH often pick a Korean, or Mexican, or even an Italian girl to go along with what I plan on having for dinner that night which makes so much more sense. lol
It is funny, in Texas the Asian girls really don't charge much, if any less than their White, Brown or Black counterparts. The oldest K-girl agency in Dallas charges $300 hr which is right in line, or maybe just a little less than most Independents charge here.
I prefer the Mexican girls over the Koreans or Chinese...and the rates are usually about the same.
However, for me you can still never beat an all American girl!
I wouldn't recommend beating any Mexicans, Korean or Chinese girls either. You can go to jail for pulling that kind of shit. lol
As for tastes in pussy, everyone has their own favorites. Personally, I like them all, race has little to do with it, except that I do have days when I am in just in the mood for a woman of a certain race.
Same here. I started exactly like you did. Since I prefer white girls, I never got heavily into AAMPs.
I came to the same conclusion as you did. The girls at 1k were no younger, prettier or better in bed than the ones in the 3-500 dollar range.
This subject is the only time when almost every guy is in agreement with me.
with you in the past on more than just this. I just can't remember off-hand which other subjects they were because most of the times I responded to you were prior to the TER blackout.
This board needs contrarians once in awhile to keep things from being too one-sided. Sometimes I'm a contrarian and sometimes I'm just part of the mob. It depends on the subject. Like you, I've never been shy about speaking up. Lol
Jacking up the price would be one way to get the volume down, if that what the provider wants ....
It's a free market, they can do what they want.
In the end these ladies can charge what they want, $1000, $2000, $10,000.00 and if they can find clients who can afford it and if it works for them, then good for them! If they offer it, clearly they can find people to afford it.
I have splurged in the past 2 years on dates over 1k. One was $1500 for a well established porn star. Was it good? Yes. Was it fun to be with her because of who she was? Yes...But looking back, I could have booked two really fun dates. My point is.. to me and that's just me. $600-$800 is my sweet spot and comfort zone and I probably wouldn't book those dates again. It was not less or more fun that a $600 date.. Same goes with a 2 hour date. Whenever I book those, I just talk more. Now, I do enjoy talking and have great conversation but at $600/ hour I just realize I waste my money and prefer to book 2 dates back to back sometimes with the same lady. If I could afford 4-6 hours dates of overnight, that would be a different story because I know I would be able to have great conversation, chemistry and.. lots of fun.
Always a touchy subject to wade into with an opinion but what the hell...First and foremost, we are all locked into this hobby of ours and we are also members of TER because we are ultimately trying to wade thru all the marketing crap and find that rare gem that we truly connect with (most of us any ways). I understand that a providers rates are her personal choice, just like its our rights as hobbies to offer opinions as to whether the price equals the sought after connection. A 10 to one may be a 2 to another. There are some providers that have a price point that may be worth the $1k to some hobbiest's. The challenge becomes when new providers come in with no rep (or "brand") and they set their rates at premium levels (and then us hobbiest's get a mediocre experience at premium levels). It breaks down that bond of trust. The analogy I use is that I have no problem paying 100k for a known high end car brand. I know it's not all that different than a nice slightly lower end brand. But in this example, the brand is a known commodity with at least a track record in the space. If I launch a completely new brand that isn't known, I would expect the criticism until I build up the track record. Cutting thru all the BS, that is what some of our fellow,hobbiest's are pointing out. We are seeing a lot of new brands tnat are pricing themselves at Land Rover prices but we are driving the vehicles and they are performing and feeling a lot like a used KIA...
Thank You. You said it better than me. This was my whole point.
But the rates issues is always a contentious issue on this board no matter how it is approached.
I couldn’t care less what anyone else is paying or what anyone else is charging - it doesn’t affect me and I don’t pay much attention to market rates.
It may well be different for me as I barely work these days (maybe 2 or 3 times a year) but to each their own with what they want to charge or are willing to pay. If they can’t get bookings/book with someone at their price point they will either adjust their price range or quit. It’s about supply and demand and as many have said quality/value has different meanings to different people ...and it isn’t always logical
C xxz