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GaGambler 123 reads
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In Dallas you would be a bit on the high side at $400, in Vegas you could probably bump your rates a bit and do just fine. It's funny about Texas, I can think of several girls who started here at $300 hr or even less who have left for places like LV or NYC and who now command twice as much.

 
There most definitely is a "sweet spot" where provider's rates are concerned and the market will tell you if you have priced your services correctly.

rppdx9148 reads

Big city guy here (not NYC).  It always seems like there are two things going on.  Young hotties working for an agency (typically $400 / 1 hour with lady getting 50%) or established TER / P411 ladies (at $500 to $600 / 1 hour if not more).  Certainly the value of reviews and an established track record are undeniable.  And we all know the "being an independent costs more" conversation (hotel room, etc.).  [Spare us all that conversation again.]  But there has to be some middle ground.

So, any ideas?  Where do your find fun women at sensible rates?  Thanks for the input.

Lastly some fun observations.

A lady who charges $1,500 / 2 hours.  But if you only want 1 hour, it's still $1,500 (and of course, she has a flabby ass).

A Canadian lady who charges 300 Canadian back home (about $270).  Her touring rate is $600 US.

An agency lady (previously getting 50% of $350) now newly independent at $600 / 1 hour.

Note for the ladies - no disrespect intended.  Of course, it's a business so charge what you can get.  But for a guy like me, and I suspect many of us, at $300 to $400 / 1 hour, an ongoing friendship (couple times a month) is doable.  At $500 to $600 / 1 hour, it's usually a one time thing.

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To answer your question. First calm down it's only pussy, get what you can get, or spend what you can spend.  

 
I figure the older I get the less I'll want.

smart people can figure it out if they take a minute (and thumb through all of the profiles of the big cities for a flabby ass lol)

So, either figure out a way to make more money or lower your expectations and stop whining.

Step 1. Get VIP
Step 2. Search by rates

Just like any other business, it's an issue of supply & demand and the socioeconomic details of the area.  

Sometimes we change our rates depending on the area we are in and adjust based on how much our overhead is.  

But I agree with everyone reasonable in this thread, just pay for VIP and search by rates. There is usually someone in your area offering rates that work for you. It also comes down to expectation, if you want a $1200 experience on a $300 budget you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. You're not paying for a non-flabby ass you're paying for an experience. They likely been doing it a long time, or always wear expensive lingerie, or stay in high priced hotels that offer more privacy, or they have so many reviews and are verified several places.

In part I am paying for a "non flabby ass" and in Texas at least you can get a very nice experience for $300.  

 
I think I speak for a LOT of TER members in the while I won't come on the boards "whining" about hookers who charge too much, I rarely if ever "overpay" for pussy either. That is what TER was created to do, give the mongers a better idea of what they are getting for their money. I can't help the fact that "some" guys don't seem to have learned how to use the tools that TER offers them for their membership fee.

 
Lastly, I don't care if they have been do it "a long time" nor do I care about "expensive lingerie" or "high priced hotel" I care about a hot looking woman who is going to give me enthusiastic service in a "decent" environment. It's the quality of the lady and the service she gives that justifies the prices she charges, not any of the ancillary things you mention.

Gambler, however it terms of location you probably live in the best state to hobby in terms of donations because there is so much competition in Texas that you will probably get your price.   I am sure that you can think about the limit that you are going to spend within reason and usually find someone that will be at your price point.  With the locals there are more escorts than hobbyist so it is really a buyers market.

I am a provider myself and altho im not verified on her yet; I always figured ourr rates were based off what we decided to set on selling our soul. Lol. In my years of doing this , i find it more suitable to be reasonably priced than over priced. Not because I am a BBW (I get high250 dates at times) but the percentage rate for one man to keep spending big amount will not make him want to come back; esspecially when they spend big amount and the woman done nothing"spectacular" for the donation. Everyone has a life, kids, bills etc. So i like to catch me a regular here and there. & I offer discounts and lower rates in order to do so. ..I'm not knocking no woman's hustle/business/entrepreneurial skills; so to each's own.  Just read post and thought I'd chime in... Have good day!

GaGambler148 reads

The last thing I want to do is to fuck a woman who thinks by "renting her body" she has "sold her soul" I only want "willing" and hopefully "eager" participants in this business. It would totally ruin it for me to find out the woman I just had sex with compared the experience to selling her very soul.

 
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE find another line of work if that's the way you really look at what you do.

rando_mn98 reads

I thought that selling your soul was a one-time deal. I've been holding out for a good offer.

I suppose the same goes for souls, maybe your soul simply isn't worth even the couple of hundred bucks that honey got for hers?

 
I do agree, If I were ever to sell my soul, I'd hold out for a good offer to, but I doubt my soul is in any more demand than my liver. lol

From the providers perspective there is a Sweet spot, a price point where you get just enough of the right type of clients.
Too low and you will get too many calls, mostly from undesirable lowlifes.  Too high and the phone won't ring.  Where that price point is depends on the market the provider is in along with her looks and reputation.

The example of the Canadian girl - well a 300 girl in Montreal is like a 500-600 girl in NYC.  I've worked both markets.

Honestly I've been considering bumping my rates slightly, simply because I'm just getting too many rif-raf approaching me lately.

GaGambler124 reads

In Dallas you would be a bit on the high side at $400, in Vegas you could probably bump your rates a bit and do just fine. It's funny about Texas, I can think of several girls who started here at $300 hr or even less who have left for places like LV or NYC and who now command twice as much.

 
There most definitely is a "sweet spot" where provider's rates are concerned and the market will tell you if you have priced your services correctly.

I am reasonable and have a great business with very good reviews with a lot of regulars.  I prefer having consistently good business versus only a few clients a week. Since I enjoy sex, I'd hate to sit around waiting for it. I write a blog on my website that helps market my business lowering my advertising costs. Eventually would prefer only regulars and no new business, it's much safer that way.

Find another hobby.  It's a luxury not a necessity.  So tired of hearing guys bitch about rates on here.  If you go to Tiffany's, you're gonna pay top dollar.  If you want cheap, go to Target or Walmart.   It should be up to the girl to do whatever she wants and for how much.  It's called consent.  Don't like it?  Do something legit.  If I go to score dope from someone I don't know, there is a good chance I will be ripped off.  If I don't want to wait for my regular to come around, that's the risk I take.  That's the chance you take.  Get over it.  If I'm having that much trouble getting stoned that it is ruining my quality of life, I go to rehab.  It's a simple situation, really.  Don't complicate it.

Not only that, I feel like rates are actually lower than usual.

I agree with you though, hearing guys complain about rates is getting REAL OLD. A girl can ask for whatever she wants.

Are two different things.  It you have to wipe cobwebs off your pussy between appointments then you're not getting enough business.  Rates may sometimes be the problem.  A provider must decide if she would prefer 5 customers a week at $500 or 10 at $400. As the price point comes down, the revenue stream goes up. Simple economics.

GaGambler152 reads

I have seen a LOT of broke hookers who charge $4-5-600 hour or more, but I have NEVER met a broke K-Girl.

Over these past two years, as I've raised my rates, my inquiries have gone up with each raise. Very, very interesting to see... however... it is nice to sometimes have three full weeks off, and I have plenty of toys to keep me semi-ok. Get waxed, and jump back in, make a bunch, more time off.

I like it that way. Works great for me! But for others, they would feel awful with the very small amount of new inquiries I get. So what you're saying, "Wipe the cobwebs off," would ring true in their ears. In mine, I more say, "Rip the leg hairs out". I grow my hair and rip it out (wax) during slow weeks/no weeks. And it's all ok - if not better, and more comfy without the hair there.  

xoxo

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Now hear is a provider openly boasting about her overpriced rates. Considering when one
look's at the top 100 in Chicago. You were rated in the mid 20's that does not by any means
equal a $1500 per 2 hour lady. OVERPRICED if I ever seen it do you seriously think you are worth
more then some of the ladies in the top ten in your city by charging  600 more per 2 hours ?

There is a reason you are not in the top ten and you just need to face and accept it.  
But on the other hand you can always find a true sucker willing to pay your overpriced rate. But
then again in time even a sucker learns from his mistakes.

GaGambler108 reads

Most of the smarter mongers don't put any stock into the "top lists" but here you are equating rates with her standing on her regional "top list" and then you wonder why so many hookers manipulate their scores.

 
It looks like YOU are the sucker who cant' learn from his mistakes.

 
As for Court, I am not going to debate her rates, but her rates are her business and gloating about how high they are hasn't appeared to hurt her business, so once again, who's the sucker? I bet she is making more than you and that she works a fraction as hard. And please spare me the "I could afford her if I wanted to" that excuse doesn't fly with guys like you who "whine" about the rates that some hookers charge. If you could afford her, but simply chose not to you wouldn't be claiming sour grapes. I don't pay GPS prices either, but I don't come on the board whining about individual hookers who you think are charging too much.

I was going to reply but honestly, it would simply have been a variation of what you wrote GaG so +1 and all that shizzle....👍

Posted By: GaGambler
Re: Actually It's guys like you who are the problem
Most of the smarter mongers don't put any stock into the "top lists" but here you are equating rates with her standing on her regional "top list" and then you wonder why so many hookers manipulate their scores.  
   
   
 It looks like YOU are the sucker who cant' learn from his mistakes.  
   
   
 As for Court, I am not going to debate her rates, but her rates are her business and gloating about how high they are hasn't appeared to hurt her business, so once again, who's the sucker? I bet she is making more than you and that she works a fraction as hard. And please spare me the "I could afford her if I wanted to" that excuse doesn't fly with guys like you who "whine" about the rates that some hookers charge. If you could afford her, but simply chose not to you wouldn't be claiming sour grapes. I don't pay GPS prices either, but I don't come on the board whining about individual hookers who you think are charging too much.

And not the other rates that hint hint go right in with the Chicago market.

So there is definitely a method to the madness. The minimum rate pays for the accommodations I provide. They're not cheap and it pays for me to be well kept and to show up with nice accommodations and dress every time.  

I like longer dates. This way they get all the bells and whistles without paying those high hourly rates for the longer dates., I can keep my presentation for all dates, not just the long ones. It works really well, and I think people really like it. The people I attract/target tend to book longer dates on a regular basis with everyone. So they're really not paying more if you really look at it closely.  

I bet people could guess which dates are my favorites if they really look objectively.

Within the past month, I have had 2 x 3-4 hour dates with 2 amazing ladies: 1 lady was in both Penthouse and Playboy (she called herself a "low-end" Playboy model because she wasn't on a cover or a special edition, etc.).  The other lady was also in Playboy.  She considered herself to be a "high-end" Playboy model.  A few random thoughts (as a result of those experiences and reading this thread):

1) The pricing structure for both of these ladies was very interesting to say the least.  The hourly rate for a 1 hour date for both of those ladies was justifiably high.  But for both of those ladies a 3-4 hour date was less expensive than 2 x 1 hour dates.  That said, they have their reasons (continue to read).    
2) When my time was up with one of these ladies, I said "I want to ensure that I respect your time.  It looks like our session is coming to an end here shortly and ..."  Then she cut me off mid-sentence and said "baby don't worry about it - you are my last appointment and I want to keep talking [about this] ... and pick your brain a little if you don't have to be anywhere" and we continued to talk for about an hour OTC about the hobby (which was interesting given that she resented many clients that attempted to obtain OTC).    
3) Based on that conversation (I am extrapolating), I feel comfortable saying that many ladies do NOT want 1 hour dates even though those ladies could make more money (at least in the short term) through 1 hour dates.  Believe it or not, it isn't always all about the money.  This lady had a good head on her shoulders.  
4) It appeared that this lady viewed clients who wanted to book 1 hour dates with contempt.  Although she didn't come out and say it directly, it appeared as though she offered a 1 hour date to screen clients out or at the very least to prioritize inquiries.  If a prospective client requested a 1 hour date, then she most likely would not see them.  She felt that those clients were more likely to attempt to take advantage of her in some way (e.g., push for OTC or attempt to squeeze in 2 cups), were more likely to reside at a lower place on the food chain (read less disposable income), and were more likely to just want to give her a good pounding.  And that was not what she was looking for in a client.  
5) She wanted longer dates to evolve into longer dates and eventually commitments.  Even commitments that were at significantly "reduced rates."  Example: one of those ladies had a commitment with an older gentlemen for $100,000/year for 2 weekends/month.  That is less than $4,000/weekend.  Which is less than half of what that would cost w/o a long-term agreement.  But she would prefer to see fewer guys and guys that she liked.  She didn't like the stress and lack of predictability associated with seeing new clients, having to prepare for new appointments, dealing with all of the "administrative tasks" such as responding to e-mails and managing a schedule (which she did herself), etc.                          
6) These 2 ladies blew all other ladies that I have seen away in every aspect of the experience.  I thought that they might be entitled and less eager to please because they are exceptionally attractive.  Not at all.  Quite the opposite.  It seemed as though they were both accustomed to meeting very high expectations and standards for looks and performance.  Perhaps because they have met high standards their whole lives.  
7) Quite frankly, I feel that we should have the opportunity to re-baseline.  In other words, both of these ladies were 10/10's and it would be nice if we could go back and "adjust" previous ratings accordingly based on new experiences.  
8) Based on my conversations with these ladies (1 is on TER and 1 is UTR), ironically both of them look at TER as somewhat beneath them.  In some ways, they view "TER ladies" the same way that "TER ladies" view "backpage girls" (I'm not trying to offend anyone here - I am just telling it like it is).  I am not "above" TER.    
9) Based on my experiences with these two ladies, I feel that the best way to distinguish yourself as a client with many ladies is to simply be genuine and extremely down to earth (impeccable hygiene is a given).  I suspect that these ladies see too many guys who are pompous assholes that like to brag about how much money they make or how great they are.  You could bring out who they really are as a person by presenting your true self.  

As you said, those two probably want to exceed expectation throughout their entire lives, not just here. I feel ya.

Now, the people who want shorter dates want clients who want shorter dates. I've heard plenty a people say "Ugh. I have a 90 minute. Ugh. I have a 2 hour. I just want a 1 hour and to be done with him, and move on to the next." A lot of providers. And that's ok. In fact, it's great because they know what they want, and the client they're attracting wants that too.

The person looking for the client that wants the longer dates/connections is going to prioritize that type of client. Why? The client AND provider are both looking for the same thing.

From what I've seen, those are the ones who jump into what you're saying, too.

I think it's brilliant. Having less clients to gain that connection, while remaining enthusiastic in the bedroom, and keeping up with looks/fashion/upkeep, and stellar presentation - you're just not going to "feel it' unless you are looking for it yourself. And you're not going to "feel it" until you walk in and experience it. You just can't.  

People can throw all of their reasoning for why things work and don't work, (or shouldn't work even though they do,) but until they are looking for something like that, and actually go in and experience it, they aren't going to understand it.

Oh, well. That could be a reason these people despise TER clients. I do despise the tit-for-tat type of clients I've met here over the years, especially at the 1 hour minimum, and at my lower rates when I was newer.  

I've been told I'm "not worth it", but I will tell you, not very often at these rates, and definitely this time minimum. Critical clients completely stopped after the 2 hour minimum was in place.

I know you are just WKing for common sense. I agree, if you're going by scores alone, you're fooling yourself. I think scores do have some merit though... but not on how much one should charge.

There is a market for the higher rates, or nobody would be doing it, but for sure I don't want anyone booking if they don't feel good about the rates. I would probably bow out at the first sign of a chance of "buyer's remorse".  

I thought gloating means I have to put someone down in the process. (In defense, I will say sarcastic stuff that's a little mean. I honestly believed the OP was directed at me, hence why I jumped in... might not be, but - it is.)

People relate rates to income in such a way that they think ten new inquiries are coming in every day.. for everybody.. far from the case lol. For me? Very far, because I set it up that way. I do not want to boat loads of inquiries. I don't want many new ones at all.  

So for one provider my way of doing things isn't going to work. One thing I will say is, for me to pull this off, I have to have regulars, and psst. the 4 hour is 500/hour. *cough*

So. It works really well for me, might not for other people. But when the dates start getting up there in hours, the price isn't as high per hour, in fact, very reasonable - even for my "score" lol. There's a reason for that.

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Well it takes time and effort to please you. When I have a date, I get my hair and nails done, make sure I am well groomed blah, blah blah... that alone isn't cheap. Then lingerie, clothing etc not saying I buy a new outfit everytime but that's effort right there to look perfect for you... And I'll spare you the "being independent cost more" talk even though I'm dying to lol!

Good providers are into their craft- pleasing you on many levels. It's not just sex for me- its entertainment, good conversation...if you just want a quickie and peace out that is a diff story. I apologize for the ones who have high rates but don't provide high quality service.

I get so tired of providers using that arguement.

So you're saying you wouldn't be getting your hair, nails etc.. done if you weren't providing?

My friends wife has an annual budget that goes directly to Victoria's Secret and she doesn't provide.

Sorry lady, once you start giving me a discount for shaving cream, body wash, shampoo, cologne etc... then I'll accept that arguement.

Oh Well, you don't have to like it.

John_Laroche93 reads

for really quality feminine grooming.

A gal who's skin is as soft and smooth as warm butter doesn't come cheap. Either do constant perfect nails and hair.

My SO pays a fortune on skin treatments, blowdries, eyelashes, etc... just to look good from me and to go to work. A provider who wants to look GREAT like she's going out to a cocktail party is going to be putting out a lot of cash to maintain that look all day, every day. I'd gladly trade my annual budget for razors and aftershave for what she spends in a month.  

I've had plenty of good times with $250-$350 gals who work out of their house wearing tights or a cute outfit, and hair pulled back in a pony tail, but sometimes I want to be wowed by glamor (heels, hair, make-up, tight dress, etc...) in a 4-star hotel. That costs extra.  

Perfect. Standing O

Except, definitely a different price tag on attracting clients in a competitive industry loaded with beautiful women at every price range, at every turn... that look almost exactly like you, and keeping them interested in you - personality is key, but the clothing & finishing touches that never end... it helps. A lot. Also not having the same stuff that the majority have in the pictures helps too... so there's some time investment/strategy in there too...

One of my things over the years before becoming Courtney, was to be beautiful for the "man" I'm with. I've had people say "you're enough, stop going to get all these hair treatments and facials, waxing, etc etc etc... you look fine!" But I did anyway, and there are still a few who saw me a year, two years, three years ago, and who still see me today... and have seemingly said, "Yeah, you were right... the $$ definitely makes a difference." hahaha I told you! lmao. But some have also dropped off because they don't like the look or the higher end presentation. Intimidating, I guess.

When I was in my 20's, I went to get a hair cut. Your typical Secretary who was - typically dressed - in a ritzy town, getting a haircut for half off. As she was cutting my hair, I showed her a picture. "Can you make my hair like this?" She said "Of course!" Then I added the punch line every stylist hears every fucking day lol...

"Can you make me look as good as the actress too? Heh. Heh."

She responded, "You do... minus boat loads of money. You could look that good. The difference between you and those people is tens of thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands..." I took that as a compliment somehow lmfao

NYC?  Yeah, that'd be tough.  Same goes for a few other areas but honestly?  
My touring rates ($300-350) are considered high in some places I visit.    
Seriously, I got slapped with the GPS label in Indiana!! LMAO!   Too funny.

 
My response to those lovely individuals is the same one I have for you: providers charge what we can get. Period.  If she isn't getting a set rate, she'll likely change things up before long. (And that could be a few different things, btw!)
Very few will climb up on their own pedestals and announce they absolutely will not fuck for anything less than what's considered "top dollar" or "high end" in her given market.  

 
Honestly, I think you're just not looking in the right places or in the best fashion.  Start over. :-)

This is strictly my opinion, from my point of reference as a long time escort client. I apologize for the inelegant way of expressing this, but a fab f*ck is a fab f*ck. It doesn't matter if she's 2 grand, or 2 hundred. My experiences have lead to search for three things in this not so secret world. I'm looking for nuance, comfortable sexual expression, and everything that entails fabulous. Those can be found at any price point.  

As the price point goes up, what you're paying for is dependability. I've had 12 no shows in my many years here, and countless non responses to inquiries. I'm the perfect gentleman, with outstanding references. All the no shows, and non responses occurred below the $400 per hour level. Not once has a $400+ lady ever no showed me. Plus, every single inquiry I've written to a $400+ lady has garnered a response. Even when they can't accommodate my needs, they take the time to say no thank you. What happens with the below $400 ladies is that their inboxes get inundated. They get inundated with messages from perfect gentlemen, and from the riff raff. One of those ladies was showing me an email after a session one time, and I accidentally saw she had over 200 messages in her inbox. How could she possibly answer every one? No way! Guys will slip through her system. She'll accidentally double book. A guy will suddenly call for a more lucrative two hour session, and your hour session will get bumped. Not to mention that with so many messages, some ladies at that level will cut corners on their screening process. So yeah, the $300 fab f*ck is awesome, but it comes with a much greater risk, and much less dependability. Some guys aren't willing to take that risk.  

But all of that doesn't really matter. There's so much more that goes into an inquiry that money has no bearing on it. Let me give you two examples. There's a lady that I would love to meet. She's well within my price point. Let's call her rrasha. However, she's so far out of my league, it's not funny. She's far more intelligent, beautiful with the perfect body, and she's young. Not to mention she's the funniest person who posts on these silly discussions. I could never send her an inquiry. A session with her would be fabulous, and have nuance, but I couldn't be my comfortable sexual self. The second example is a lady in a small market. A milf if you will. Her price point is $260/hr. Let's call her Anita Ph. It's uncanny, but she just has that look of beautiful nastiness. And she doesn't take a bad picture. Her reviews are fabulous. I would so love to meet her. However, she has more hits on her ad in this small market than any other lady by far. I would bet a million bucks that she has 300 messages sitting in her inbox. Yes, she would no doubt be fabulous, but I would get lost in the shuffle of 300.  

So f*ck pricing. This endeavor is so much more than price point. While there's a lot of intuition that goes into finding fabulous, there's also a lot of luck. While one can quantify price point, how can one quantify intuitive luck?

souls_harbor75 reads

I don't see the math on this.  Let's assume $350 for the first hour and usually some discount for the second hour, maybe $200.   So two hours is $550.   But two gents for one hour each totals $700.   Bumping someone to go to two hours with the other is like throwing away $150.

Posted By: mojojo
Re: Fabulous
A guy will suddenly call for a more lucrative two hour session, and your hour session will get bumped.

Mommascomin88 reads

seeing one guy for two hours is usually much safer and MUCH less energy and less stressful than seeing two guys for one hour each.

What is sensible for you or I is different from some other dude, but there are many in the 250-500 range who are awesome at what they do and who look amazing!!!

If a plumber is charging $40 an hour and can't keep up with demand, he'll raise his rates to $60 an hour and get the amount of work his time and skills will allow for. At $350 an hour I felt fairly compensated BUT I only have so many hours in the day and so much pounding my parts can take and chatting I can cope with - I was spending 2/3 hours a day on emails/calls and screening, so I raised rates to $500 an hour and now I spend an hour a day on admin, can see 80% of gents who enquire and my day isn't crammed and stressed and my bits and brain take less pounding. Supply and demand........
I'd still be happy making $350 an hour but I don't really have to so why would I??

Dear Ms. Cavnendish,
You also learned that you have the nearly the same demand and you have enough clients given the current state of the economy that you will be able to meet your current responsibilities.  Also I have a feeling that you have more multiple hour clients and that is where you will really be able to generate revenue.  I dare say as well you can do that because you have a sugar daddy or two that you can schedule when you don't want to have the responsibility of verification and that is also a great financial bonanza for you as well.  Also you have a strong customer base already at that number and at other numbers at your discretion as well.  That is why although you will take new customers it is the old customers who are loyal that definitely see you through.

Posted By: clairecavendish
Re: Look - it's a service business model
If a plumber is charging $40 an hour and can't keep up with demand, he'll raise his rates to $60 an hour and get the amount of work his time and skills will allow for. At $350 an hour I felt fairly compensated BUT I only have so many hours in the day and so much pounding my parts can take and chatting I can cope with - I was spending 2/3 hours a day on emails/calls and screening, so I raised rates to $500 an hour and now I spend an hour a day on admin, can see 80% of gents who enquire and my day isn't crammed and stressed and my bits and brain take less pounding. Supply and demand........  
 I'd still be happy making $350 an hour but I don't really have to so why would I??

Dear delightful duplicitous gent,
'Tis true that any of my dates are multi hour due to my sparkling wit and scintillating conversation skills, second only as they are to my astounding oral qualities :))
Alas though sugar daddy's are not part of my life boo boo!!!

And there it is. A sensible explanation as to why Claire's rates are sensible....

Posted By: clairecavendish
Re: Look - it's a service business model
If a plumber is charging $40 an hour and can't keep up with demand, he'll raise his rates to $60 an hour and get the amount of work his time and skills will allow for. At $350 an hour I felt fairly compensated BUT I only have so many hours in the day and so much pounding my parts can take and chatting I can cope with - I was spending 2/3 hours a day on emails/calls and screening, so I raised rates to $500 an hour and now I spend an hour a day on admin, can see 80% of gents who enquire and my day isn't crammed and stressed and my bits and brain take less pounding. Supply and demand........  
 I'd still be happy making $350 an hour but I don't really have to so why would I??

Variety and Donations are The Spice Of Life..

You sound like a nagging wife who complains about everything she sees that doesn't even matter, nor does it concern her. That or a man who has never grown up, and can't have every single woman he's ever dreamed of having whenever.

Nobody can have that, but some people can handle that. With the amount of people in this industry, why not find out what you feel OK with paying, and pick from the literally HUNDREDS of women available to you, if not more.

As far as I'm concerned, you just want whatever you want, whenever you want. And you're angry when you don't get it. Which means you're probably one of those guys (or girls) who touches women or men without their invitation as you're walking down the street. Or in the 7-11, you're dropping your hand and sliding it against people's arses in the grocery store condiments section.

That or someone said no to your discount request, or refusal to screen. Which is ok, but you have to take that "No" and move on instead of being a little bitch about it.

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And usually spot on and an enjoyable read.
If only you spoke your mind ... lol

Well hello gentlemen, luscious Divine here, I offer an exhilarating experience. Nice incall location and I have been told my techniques are world class. Save your money and come see me and that's a big Texas guarantee you won't be disappointed

....that complain about womens rates and there will always be women that complain about men that they see. Women should set their rates at what makes them comfortable (mentally and financially)  - the same with the length of time (if you don't like 1hour appointments don't offer them). The problem with rate setting is that many women are trying to be all things to all people and the struggle then becomes very real. If your marketing is all over the place your clients will be too. Create a strategy and adjust slowly based in clientele 'fit' and demand. The beauty of this World is that there is someone for everyone so women shouldn't worry so much about casting the net too small as it were...

Men that have a certain price point  and length of time they will book can simply search within those parameters. Who cares what the women who offer 4 hour minimums think of the men that book 1hour appointments? Apples and oranges.  

Regardless of whether you are buying or selling, if you are going to bitch and moan about people that fall outside of your strike zone you come across as bitter and that's such an unattractive trait. That,more than price point will put most people off point blank. Bitterness is just ugly....and whilst pricepoints may change that fact will not

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Exactly and well said Cam. I check my checking account balance then look for what I like, stay in my commutable region and then target those providers. So far, so good as I tend to repeat often and it`s the connection that I`m most looking for. Now if I could just get the "connection" on the same page with the "Get off, get out" attitude I might be really be onto something.

I believe there is a way on TER that you can search for a provider by her rates?  

Either that or consider making travel plans to Atlanta, GA ;]

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