I've been seeing her since she was barely legal, and while once upon a time no one would ever think we were together, after all the time I have known her we actually look like a couple know, and are treated that way whether we are having dinner together or checking into a hotel. It's just so obvious that we have know each other for years, no one gives us that "hooker/client" look any more when we are out together, or when we ask for an early morning wake up call when checking into a hotel together.
I guess it must suck to be "old at heart" but I don't feel embarrassed or out of place in the least when with someone who technically is young enough to be my grand daughter.
As I've mentioned a zillion times, I'm over 60. Thin, no big gut. Just some flab around the middle that no amount of gym time seems to eliminate. I looked in the mirror a couple hours ago after getting out of the shower. Blech. Even though I'm in better condition than most guys my age, I don't look like I did ten years ago. There's the small brown spots on my stomach and back that just come with age. If I've been sitting awhile, the lines across my gut don't go away immediately.
If I were in my 20's or 30''s, would I want to have sex with a woman in my condition? For $350 or $400 an hour? That's tough. I don't know that I could do it.
Which makes me wonder how providers can do it. How do you manage to pretend to enjoy it? Do you think about shopping or Johnny Depp or something like that while it's going on?
I haven't been turned down yet, but I have to think that day is coming.
Head on over to your local book store and buy a self help book...
You need a good dose of self-image..
Its one thing not having game to have sex with hot women in civvie life, but not to have enough self image to find oneself worthy of paying for sex, is for lack of a better word, just sad.. Its so sad that is extremely disturbing..
If little bit of reading PMA books don't help, I would just go ahead and smash the mirror on the bathroom wall, if I were you, so you wouldn't have to see yourself in the mirror.
The place where you are asking the question is wrong place..
You are asking a bunch of hookers how they come to terms with having sex with an ugly ass 60 yr old dude.. Dude.. Get real.. That's what they have chosen to do (at least for time being). If you ask this question to general population, you will get much different answer. Most, in overwhelming number, won't want to have sex with 60 yr old ugly ass dude...
If they were to only have sex with the Matthew Mcconaughey type, they wouldn't be in business for too long..
Deep inside, it seems though, that you are insecure about your appearance.. Get over it.. We guys don't care and neither do "they"...
CurlyW, it's my understanding that most of the guys these ladies see are in their 40's and 50's. A few have said that 60+ is rare. That's what has me curious. I seem to recall one provider ad that specified an age range that would exclude me, and it wasn't because I was outside the young end of that range.
As for being insecure, I'll check in with you when you're in your 60's and see how you like your appearance. That's if I still have enough wits to remember.
I've rarely seen any hooker site with an upper age limit.
And if you want to see your "competition" in their 40's and 50's...try a M&G and you'll realize that from a physical standpoint most gals would rather see you (given your physical description) than most of the dudes 10-20 years your junior.
The reality is that gals have chosen this path...and when Gramps walks through the door they do the same thing as when the Stay-Puft marshmallow man (in his 30's LOL) comes waddling in.
The great equalizer always is Ben. And the young ones tend to think about their nails and clubbing while we're fucking them. Or so it seems...right FarrahGFE? LOL
Posted By: 89Springer
CurlyW, it's my understanding that most of the guys these ladies see are in their 40's and 50's. A few have said that 60+ is rare. That's what has me curious. I seem to recall one provider ad that specified an age range that would exclude me, and it wasn't because I was outside the young end of that range.
As for being insecure, I'll check in with you when you're in your 60's and see how you like your appearance. That's if I still have enough wits to remember.
As I've mentioned a zillion times, I'm over 60. Thin, no big gut. Just some flab around the middle that no amount of gym time seems to eliminate. I looked in the mirror a couple hours ago after getting out of the shower. Blech. Even though I'm in better condition than most guys my age, I don't look like I did ten years ago. There's the small brown spots on my stomach and back that just come with age. If I've been sitting awhile, the lines across my gut don't go away immediately.
He's just lamenting that aging is not something that he is thrilled with...and concerned that some 25 y/o kid will look at him as an "old man".
My guess is you don't look like you did 10 years ago either? Most of us don't! But in this world...who gives a shit...other than the OP?
younger guys for their lack of maturity than those who don't want to see older guys, because they are old. I have seen small subset of girls who don't want to see guys above 55 or 60, but that's very small subset. But in talking to some gals offline, some have mentioned that guys in their 60s are their father's age. And they feel a little weirded out trying to suck their dick. So not entirely related to looks, is it?
Dude.. Those who have seen me in person know I am no model material. I gave up worrying about my looks right before I fucked my first hooker, and let that last fart out...I am pretty sure you look better in your 60s than I look in my 30s....for whole host of different reasons....
someone will probably reply "when the money runs out". But the question is valid because this game is part illusion and part genuine human interaction. Maybe the provider is great at dissociating herself from her performance, but the hobbyist still has a self image. Oh there I go again, referring to us all as humans! What a wimp I am, must be running low on testosterone again. Lemme go get the needle.
For me, all you need is to shower before you come, sometimes a good bottle of red will be rewarded with an incomparable pleasure.
Maybe you don't but plenty of women do, including me. For example, some of us have lower limits than others and can only go so far. I'm not willing to have intimate relations with someone older than my father, that's gross to me, but that's my personal thing. So yes, be aware, you can certainly be turned away even if you're paying and are clean and respectful. You just need to find women who are comfortable with it and you may want to try not to go too young, just don't try to force the ones who aren't comfortable no matter how much you want them. It wont turn out well. Just be honest about who you are and what they should expect and it will go just fine.
But my point is, I certainly say no to people I cannot even pretend to be attracted to. Even if they have a good personality, there's only so far you can go. Some ladies can do that, but not all. I'm g;ad there are ladies out there who don't have the same boundaries or are able to be okay with men I wouldn't be, because they are needed. However, many end up with bad reviews because they assume they will be able to deal with it and then can't when he shows up, go through with it anyway because they want or need the money, give a bad or sub-par performance and end up with a 3 on performance, lol.
I would rather see an older gent who talks about things like how life used to be before tablets than a younger guy who insists on asking my real name.
I would rather see a younger gent who is successful and just wants to enjoy his years before he gets tied down than an older gent who is miserable because he never went out and enjoyed life.
I would rather see a middle aged man who finds himself horny from now and then and doesn't promise me the world, but is honest in saying... I really just want sex, so how about we offer this exchange than an older or younger man who tries to promise me the world only to give me a wrong phone number.
Shoot I don't see ladies in their 20's now and I'm not in my 60's yet. Tried it, don't like it.
Posted By: 89Springer
As I've mentioned a zillion times, I'm over 60. Thin, no big gut. Just some flab around the middle that no amount of gym time seems to eliminate. I looked in the mirror a couple hours ago after getting out of the shower. Blech. Even though I'm in better condition than most guys my age, I don't look like I did ten years ago. There's the small brown spots on my stomach and back that just come with age. If I've been sitting awhile, the lines across my gut don't go away immediately.
If I were in my 20's or 30''s, would I want to have sex with a woman in my condition? For $350 or $400 an hour? That's tough. I don't know that I could do it.
Which makes me wonder how providers can do it. How do you manage to pretend to enjoy it? Do you think about shopping or Johnny Depp or something like that while it's going on?
I haven't been turned down yet, but I have to think that day is coming.
I've now tried 20's and 30's and enjoyed both. I'm just trying to hear what the ladies say, but more guys seem to want to answer the original question.
I've now tried 20's and 30's and enjoyed both. I'm just trying to hear what the ladies say, but more guys seem to want to answer the original question.
I prefer older men to see then younger... Older men are better in bed in this biz... No games (Some), can afford, mannered, adventurous, professional .... I can go on & on.... My ATFs are all older.... The younger encounters I've had are high maintenanced... Seriously... I have not met any hobbyists in their 20s early 30s that's not either high maintenance, cheap-wants to barter, usually horrid in bed... Lol....
Idk in this biz it's wise to age discriminate????? ... But I have been told by few older gents Ive seen they there are providers out there that have age, race, weight requirements... But to each there own ...
I have had just as many under 30 guys that are unattractive as the other option...age really does not have that much to do with it, and yah...I can get off easier with a guy I am not intimidated by lol. Just sayin.
Maybe by my board persona, but not ME personally. Nothing about me in person is intimidating. I am not a 10 in looks, very down to earth, not overly dominant, bossy, controlling, etc. Wait...guys in the hobby, right? Ha.
I think that is one of your only posts where I can say "WRONG!". You have power as a woman, you can elevate or cast down with a word. Egos and self-esteem aren't gender-specific.
yeah, I get ya. For a few moments at least, we get more than the bf gets in some ways. lol, no gf I ever had brought a warm towel to cleanse me after the deed. The fantasy GFE. If a date farts in my presence, I know it's the real thing, the real GFE.
Its funny how someone said to me recently....That you are nothing like your board persona..People think that we are the same way in person as we are on the boards..
20 to lets say 45 year olds are all good looking, and muscular. I would take CPA’s suggestion and go to few M&G’s then you will get the real answer. You will be surprised.
Moreover, age doesn’t mean that 50 to 60 year olds have saggy skin, unfit fat ugly slobs. Some are in hell of lot better shape than the 20 somethings.
I know its a question for providers but just wanted to add something. I am not an expert but I think women don't place a lot of weightage on looks...they get flattered/attracted to sweet talk. One more thing is providers might not be as conscious of your body as you are in that one hour you meet them. So stop worrying about your body and enjoy!
Posted By: 89Springer
As I've mentioned a zillion times, I'm over 60. Thin, no big gut. Just some flab around the middle that no amount of gym time seems to eliminate. I looked in the mirror a couple hours ago after getting out of the shower. Blech. Even though I'm in better condition than most guys my age, I don't look like I did ten years ago. There's the small brown spots on my stomach and back that just come with age. If I've been sitting awhile, the lines across my gut don't go away immediately.
If I were in my 20's or 30''s, would I want to have sex with a woman in my condition? For $350 or $400 an hour? That's tough. I don't know that I could do it.
Which makes me wonder how providers can do it. How do you manage to pretend to enjoy it? Do you think about shopping or Johnny Depp or something like that while it's going on?
I haven't been turned down yet, but I have to think that day is coming.
At 24, I just don't think that I'm capable of any sort of genuine intimacy with someone much older than me. I'm positive that my upper age limit has cost me money, but it's just not worth it to me (I recently had a 72-year-old email me multiples times offering me all kinds of shit to see him and I was honestly offended that he thought I'd sacrifice my personal comfort level for a few designer handbags...but I digress). I feel like that restriction is almost certainly beneficial to the older gentlemen who'd be interested in seeing me as well. I mean, if I'm going to be unable to keep myself from thinking about the fact that my own father is only 51, then I'd imagine that my performance would be lacking. So I figure that they can keep their money, and I can keep my age limit. Win-win, right?
That said, younger doesn't always necessarily mean hotter. Obviously Richard Gere is much more physically attractive than Jonah Hill, but I'd have much more in common with the latter.
(But all of this only applies to GFE scenarios. I doubt it would matter much if it were more of a blow-n-go type deal)
and as you point out, that is all it shall ever be for me. A pleasant thought. She'd probably be fun to simply hang out with, though. I guess that might qualify as a really weird tease and denial date, huh?
Actually holds a spot of my heart. Same with Kevin James. He's like, my ideal man. Not only do I find them both insanely attractive, but hilarious to boot.
Just goes to show.. Beauty on a scale of 1-10 is a barbaric method.
Funny you should mention that because I have a total ladyboner for Jack Black.
Posted By: alyssainnewyork
Actually holds a spot of my heart. Same with Kevin James. He's like, my ideal man. Not only do I find them both insanely attractive, but hilarious to boot.
Just goes to show.. Beauty on a scale of 1-10 is a barbaric method.
OMG there's hope for me after all!!!! I'm a slightly better looking version of Jack Black!!!! What a coincidence....
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
Funny you should mention that because I have a total ladyboner for Jack Black.
Posted By: alyssainnewyork
Actually holds a spot of my heart. Same with Kevin James. He's like, my ideal man. Not only do I find them both insanely attractive, but hilarious to boot.
Just goes to show.. Beauty on a scale of 1-10 is a barbaric method.
But can you sing? I do a pretty rad rendition of Fuck Her Gently. If you can keep up, then HOLLA!!
Posted By: SecretMe11
OMG there's hope for me after all!!!! I'm a slightly better looking version of Jack Black!!!! What a coincidence....
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
Funny you should mention that because I have a total ladyboner for Jack Black.
Posted By: alyssainnewyork
Actually holds a spot of my heart. Same with Kevin James. He's like, my ideal man. Not only do I find them both insanely attractive, but hilarious to boot.
Just goes to show.. Beauty on a scale of 1-10 is a barbaric method.
I actually can sing...I was a music professional for several years
PS - I'm gonna bone you discreetly
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
But can you sing? I do a pretty rad rendition of Fuck Her Gently. If you can keep up, then HOLLA!!
Posted By: SecretMe11
OMG there's hope for me after all!!!! I'm a slightly better looking version of Jack Black!!!! What a coincidence....
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
Funny you should mention that because I have a total ladyboner for Jack Black.
Posted By: alyssainnewyork
Actually holds a spot of my heart. Same with Kevin James. He's like, my ideal man. Not only do I find them both insanely attractive, but hilarious to boot.
Just goes to show.. Beauty on a scale of 1-10 is a barbaric method.
I think I've got something in my teeth, could you get it out for me? That's fuckin' TEAMWOOORK!!
Posted By: SecretMe11
I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT ABOUT YOU!!!!
I actually can sing...I was a music professional for several years
PS - I'm gonna bone you discreetly
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
But can you sing? I do a pretty rad rendition of Fuck Her Gently. If you can keep up, then HOLLA!!
Posted By: SecretMe11
OMG there's hope for me after all!!!! I'm a slightly better looking version of Jack Black!!!! What a coincidence....
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
Funny you should mention that because I have a total ladyboner for Jack Black.
Posted By: alyssainnewyork
Actually holds a spot of my heart. Same with Kevin James. He's like, my ideal man. Not only do I find them both insanely attractive, but hilarious to boot.
Just goes to show.. Beauty on a scale of 1-10 is a barbaric method.
If I am creeped out, I am creeped out. Better to let a guy know this upfront. Many women don't want to fk a guy their dad's age, and many extend that to a grandpa's age.
I've been seeing her since she was barely legal, and while once upon a time no one would ever think we were together, after all the time I have known her we actually look like a couple know, and are treated that way whether we are having dinner together or checking into a hotel. It's just so obvious that we have know each other for years, no one gives us that "hooker/client" look any more when we are out together, or when we ask for an early morning wake up call when checking into a hotel together.
I guess it must suck to be "old at heart" but I don't feel embarrassed or out of place in the least when with someone who technically is young enough to be my grand daughter.
And that, folks, is what I'm talking about. If the lady isn't comfortable with me, I'm not comfortable with her. She could be 22, 32 or 42. If she's cool with me being old enough to be father or even grandfather, then everything is fine with me.
One young provider doesn't act anywhere near as wild with me as other guys have described her in their reviews. I think there's some possibilities. One may be my mellow disposition, that she's reading it as "no wild stuff". I've had that disposition most of my life, and some people have remarked that it affects them. She may think I"m too old to get wild, or that something will break. Or she may be turned off by my age, although her performance doesn't suggest that, and we text each other every few days.
Another provider, who seemed just barely out of high school, didn't seem to have any problem jumping all over me, sticking her boobs in my face and doing all sorts of nasty stuff. She was asked by the primary hooker if she wanted to be part of a threesome, and she agreed right away.
That's the great thing about having "old" friends. they make you feel so much better about yourself, Were you ever friends with George Burns??? Or were you more of a Bob Hope kind of guy? lmao
I would much rather see a man who is confident in his own skin, knows and understands his tastes, and can make me smile. Age plays zero factors in this part, if you can adhere to being self assured, there's no need to doubt the mindset of wh you are with.
I'm at a point where I know my strong and weak points. There's things I know how to do just from experience, and some that younger guys may not even know. There's other things I can't do because of physical limitations.
If the provider is fine with it, that's great. If she's not, it's going to come across in the session no matter how well she acts.
Again, I'd much rather have the honesty of BadCollegeGirl than someone saying okay just to get the money. I'm seeking a good sexual experience, not a "blow 'n go".
…connect with the person and the MAN that he is. If you're only seeing his age or aged appearance you will be quite challenged! If you're thinking "oh God I'm having sex with a grandpa- how gross!" then you're doomed. One must wrap their brain around it a certain way…then it becomes "I am sharing (or if you're not really enjoying it, you are then GIVING) pleasure to a mature gentleman" who, in many ways, is no different than the younger gentlemen that you see..just in an older body. You are leaving him with some wonderful memories and you've made someone very happy. You have your $ and he has his pleasure and memories…everyone wins.
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