If she has been making him wear a condom for two years the chances are that he is, if not the "only" guy going BB with her, at least one of a "very few" doing so. Now if she had gone BB with him on the first or second session I would completely agree that she was doing it with virtually everyone.
CDL I know it's always tempting to go for the cheap laugh at an honest poster's expense, but there are plenty of trolls we can make fun of, let's not try to ridicule the posters who aren't bothering anyone. Unless they are REALLY REALLY dumb of course, but the OP doesn't appear to be one of those guys/girls.
I do agree that a LOT of older providers start skipping the condom in an effort to make up for their fading looks, Those providers are pretty easy to spot when looking at their review history and seeing that they started off getting 8-8 reviews ten years ago and now are getting 9-9s without having major surgery. Yes, providing BB services does make their appearance scores go up too. lol
This older provider I've been seeing for over 2 years has really grown on me to the point where we bare back anybody else have this happen to them?
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I walk into a bar the other day. Bartender asks me what I want, I say "surprise me." He shows me creampie pictures of the older provider I've been screwing bareback.
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I tell yah I don't get no respect...
A woman walks into a bar.
She asks the bartender for a Double Entendre.
He gave it to her.
I've been with two milfs who have let me bbfs. One after knowing her for years (retired shortly after and moved to Florida) and another one the first time we met - she screwed up the appointment the day earlier and offered a free visit if i came back (paid her after the session though, she was amazing). That one was touring my town and hasn't been back for years.
older providers that are trying to compete with the younger gals. I'm just surprised it took you two years instead of two sessions. You may have been the last guy to finally join her "team."
On the flip side in general younger people feel more invincible. I for one don't try to compete with the younger gals. I just hang in there with those who appreciate me for who I am.
Steph XO
Exactly
Better Safe then Sorry
Aids , and HIV s still around
Matter of Life and death
I choose Life!
XOXO
So agree!
Condoms don’t protect against herpes and HPV
CDC -- Consistent and correct use of latex condoms reduces the risk of genital herpes, syphilis, and chancroid only when the infected area or site of potential exposure is protected. Condom use may reduce the risk for HPV infection and HPV-associated diseases (e.g., genital warts and cervical cancer).
Yes and no.
MAY is the operative word.
And the day I consider breaking Rule One, is the day I post on ZipRecruiter for a one way ticket back to cubicle-ville.
Be safe & prosperous Steph!
xoxo
KT
Exceptional ladies are always an exception to my statement. Kudos for not caving into the pressure. Carve your own niche and "competing" becomes a non-issue.
Agreed that older providers allow bbfs more then younger ones. I have had several in Minnesota although one was younger. The others were all in their 40’s and maybe 50ish. I’ve had more then a few instances of it slipping in during p2p and they don’t stop. I did stop with more then a few as it didn’t seem right for various reasons. I totally understand that if they are doing it bareback with me they are doing it with others and that I’m not special.
If she has been making him wear a condom for two years the chances are that he is, if not the "only" guy going BB with her, at least one of a "very few" doing so. Now if she had gone BB with him on the first or second session I would completely agree that she was doing it with virtually everyone.
CDL I know it's always tempting to go for the cheap laugh at an honest poster's expense, but there are plenty of trolls we can make fun of, let's not try to ridicule the posters who aren't bothering anyone. Unless they are REALLY REALLY dumb of course, but the OP doesn't appear to be one of those guys/girls.
I do agree that a LOT of older providers start skipping the condom in an effort to make up for their fading looks, Those providers are pretty easy to spot when looking at their review history and seeing that they started off getting 8-8 reviews ten years ago and now are getting 9-9s without having major surgery. Yes, providing BB services does make their appearance scores go up too. lol
He has four reviews, two are twenty-somethings and two are 50-ish, which fit the description of his "older" provider. If he was talking about Jenny in the Valley, who has 972 TER reviews going back to around 2005, then it wasn't much of a joke. Haven't seen her myself, but have talked to about a 100 guys who have over the years. If it was the other one (Caroline), who has reviews going back to 2009, then I was speculating. You can check them out and then decide for yourself what the chances are that these two could get flagged for too many players on the field.
Which is my way or saying that you might have a point, ok there is a very good chance you have a point. fucker. lol
Jenny sounds like the West Coast's answer to Gina Rollins. lol
Your point is VERY well taken, and I humbly apologize.
Gina = Jenny. Apology accepted, but don't say humbly, say grudgingly, or you'll embarrass me. Lol
there has been a big trend last 5 years of girls all ages but mostly the over 35 crowd being open to BBFS ... heck i have had a number where they being the ones who suggest it on a first visit .. i think after years of everyone being super careful .. people are getting complacent..... in fact for the longest time you could not even post talking about BBFS on TER. !! reminds of the guy who jumps off the building as he passes the 6th floor..... so far so good!
5 or more years ago BBFS was very rare ... sadly now lately its almost masturbation .. 90% do .. the other 10% lie 
and its the great catch 22 of all time ........ you want to do with a lady who doesn't ... and you don't want to do it with a lady who does.
more and more ladies say they are getting requests from a majority of first date guys ... one lady said she was open to do with me on a first date because i was the first guy who both didn't ask and when she was inches from me i actually backed her away.
another top lady says whats becoming more common from guys over 55 is they tell her "lets go BB i have a test!" so id you try that just know you are not the only one.
guideline - if she is the one who bring it up during one of your first three meetings ... assume you are not the only one.
oh by the way ..... i have a test myself
Those of us who choose to use condoms have no need to lie about it.
I hope the day never comes when the choice of this safety is so socially stigmatized that a lie seems necessary. .
Female condoms may help stave off that day.
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No, I don't want to do it with a provider "who doesn't".
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PS If you didn't get it by now, yes, iI found that comment insulting. Even though you probably meant 10% of providers.
sorry didn't mean to be taken literally and to everyone .. just bringing up the fact that many more do it than admit to it ... yes a large percentage of the TER world are consistently careful ... just that the number of both ladies and gentleman in the hobby have gotten more and more comfortable with going au natural.
I think there have been three times in my life when girls brought up the possibility of bbfs without prompting. In every case I had seen them repeated times over an extended time frame. The discussion was always preceded on their part by an "I've just been tested and I'm clean." They knew it would be something special. And it was. bbfs is better but it has to be carefully handled. In many ways a female condom is nearly as good.
yes have to admit wish more girls used and knew how to use well female condoms .. they can be amazing .. and check i would pay an extra $20 for them to use!
You can buy them direct from the manufacturer without a prescription for only about $2. each. Like the old commercial said:
I have an ATF who has offered it up recently but considering that I'm sure she has offered it to others. Not sure but I politely declined.
Rule 2: decide how much risk you can and will take.
I have been offered at least twice and I have respectfully declined! In both cases we were long term and it kinda ruined the future for me because I couldn’t see them anymore.
Back in the day, it was not uncommon for a large percentage of the 'elite courtesans' in my city to offer it. I can't imagine things have changed that much.
...the plumbing
Has nothing to do with you, how "elite" she is or what she charges.
from that point its up to you.
Who was she btw? lol
......since I had unprotected sex, and that was with my SO, which is still and SO but no sex. A story for another time.
The idea of never being able to feel sex again, the way our good Lord intended, is depressing to me. I have been snipped, so kids are not an issue.
HOWEVER, there is that disease thing that remains an issue, and I am too damn chicken to try. And as others have said, if she is doing it with you, odds are she is doing it with others.
I can’t tell a big enough difference between BB and covered. Though the only way to truly tell, would be a double blind test with the wife, and I think that would raise some issues of “WTF and why?”. So, I’ll just continue busting nuts in a cover! No STD’s or children to follow me home.
If a provider advertises BBFS, or offers...... I will not see.
I need to try your brand of condom because I can definitely tell the difference. For a side by side test try a CBJ to BBBJ.
Damn Good idea on the CBJ vs BBBJ! Duhmpf, as Homer would say.
I agree. There is only a slight difference for me. I use Skyn condoms. They're pretty thin and also don't smell like a rubber factory. I once saw an escort recommend them because she said they didn't have any taste during cbj.
I also use Skyn condoms. They are thinner than latex, stronger, and don't cause irritation
This older provider I've been seeing for over 2 years has really grown on me to the point where we bare back anybody else have this happen to them?
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I'm surprised no one talks about prep/truvada as a reason behind spike in bbfs. In kgirl orgs, you now see plenty of young girls just going for bbfs. And bb hounds eat it up, so that younger girls think they can just let clients hit raw and not provide any other fun services older girls might be skilled at. Bb takes the place of skills or development of skills, which makes me sad.
in talking a a couple of highly rated TER ladies apparently BBFS has become almost the norm in Dallas .. of course i would imagine many don't .. or at least will SAY that they don't. but my own experience in being offered that by a number of otherwise respected ladies confirms this is the case. (no i wont give out names) and this started before the current virus crisis. i do hope that other cities are not experiencing this.
Does BBFS exist here among providers? of course it does, but is it "the norm" now? Hardly.
I don't know how big your sample size was, but I can assure you, BBFS is hardly the "norm" in Dallas.
I'm Calling bullshit on this one...
Did they communicate with you at the beginning of the session, or did they spring it on you in a moment of weakness?
That should tell you the motivation behind the expanded menu.
But that's risk reward you have to way heavily on your end!
It's one thing with built trust over time w/ a provider.. But different ballgame one who will with anyone randomly on a first session or for added menu..
But neither are safeguard foolproof even with tests
another way of saying you just need additional time to convince yourself to take more risks with a particular provider. These stats are not from a scientific study, just anecdotal evidence from my own experience with roughly one thousand providers . . . . 20% never do BB with a customer, 20% will do it with just about everyone, and the other 60% are YMMV with varying thresholds of selectivity.
Not saying you should or shouldn't.... As you are playing roulette big time to varying degree either way! I don't really partake except occasionally with ATF one & only I have in hobby but we both show each other up to date tests.. NOT 100% that it's full proof either. Not very high volume either.
I do agree with your break down on who's willing to BBFS & YMMV. Stay away from those well known to , those that have signs of substance issues & high volume a given IMO. But that's just me... Not recommending anyone. Individual choice & hope those that do are as smart as possible... Or should say possibly be!
Some people on other fourms brag & flat recommend to others! I'd stay away from that but again just me & my thoughts
providers that openly advertise BBFS. I think a provider should keep her ability to choose when and who to go bare with. When they advertise BB, they lose that to a certain extent. That tips the scales over to "too risky" for me.
just found online ad - two asian girls near LA airport. they clearly post - Dual BBFS $400 for both for the hour !! ($320 if you want covered, heaven forbid!) .. they even have a half hour BBFS rate. can you even imagine the clientele ?? and they apparently tour, they must be an epidemiologist dream or nightmare !!
in this biz to catch two DIFFERENT STD's in he same session. Should be on everyone's bucket list. Lol
And I'd expect when you call that number, they say they use cash app....Scam.
Bbfs is pretty rampant in kgirl world, the non-scam kgirl world.
Precovid, I'd say there were a lot of bbfs cip kgirls who'd average something like 15 loads a day deposited in their vagina. It is what it is.
Not a good idea, you could get a small kootie bug or a big kootie bug.
Stay clean and safe.
Jessie Parker
Maybe that is why you are in the top 2%? Your marketing on your website is interesting.