It's Pandemic mongering.  I got an old kgirl friend who invited me over to her house for sucking and fucking long time.  

 

 
We were drinking heavily and Vampire kgirl shared a Tale from the AMP with me.  Don is a straight long time (20 +) years VIP customer.

 

 
Recently, Don shared a story about him sucking off his long time male friend after a long night of hard drinking.  Vampire kgirl asks Don 'now you're gay'?  He replies 'no, I was just drunk and helping out a sexually frustrated friend'.

 

 
I consider myself tolerant.  As long as two consenting adults want to express love with each other and nobody else is negativity affected, have at it.  

 

Vampire kgirl asked me if I think Don is gay?  I replied that me and my straight monger brothers don't consider sucking hard cock and taking it in the ass.  Just my style.

-- Modified on 12/12/2020 5:05:06 PM

Pandemic mongering.  Thank you TER for allow my share!

 

I recently had a session with a kgirl.  She's YMMV.  I walked in with a good vibe and positive attitude.  Poor dear was deathly afraid of catching COVID.  So no kissing.  No means no.  In the soapy fun shower, she offered up LFK that I gobbled up; but I think I pushed my luck and that sucks!  After discussion with my monger brothers, I have to own that the session did not meet expectation becauseI rushed the DFK. If I had just chilled the fuck out, I might of cracked the code to the downside of YMMV.

 

 
YMMV

The acclaimed "International Law" joke tells us the following on this subject:  

 
- If a woman has sex with another woman, she is bi. Even if she has ONLY had sex with other women, she is still bi, because she has the physical capacity to be pleasured by a man.  
- However, if a guy has sex with thousands of women, and just that one time in college when he was drunk he sucked a dick, he's gay. Even if he never has sex with a guy again, he's still gay because one time he sucked a dick.  

 
Like I said, not fair, unless you are not that guy. :p  

 
Ok, seriously... each of us is what we believe ourselves to be.  If Don identifies himself as straight, he's straight. If he identifies as gay, he's gay. And if he identifies himself as bi, or confused, or flexible, or pansexual, or whatever... that's what he is.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

I’m guessing he’s probably cool with the idea of a MFM threesome, too.  

 
My idea of “helping out a friend” is to show him that sex version of titty witter and let him take his chances. But, hey, if that’s how Don rolls, I’m not judging.

 
OK, fine. He gets to decide whether he’s bi or not, I know. I just can’t imagine ever being that relaxed about it. Just goes to show that there’s always a bell curve.

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Brother Twoon, I've thought about it frequently, particularly in light of the situation we're in, and I don't think I get much more out of DFK than I do LFK. I always defer to the girl in this but have found sometimes, usually as she's helping me dress, that she didn't DFK because I didn't initiate the effort! Communication is key. Some girls have at least appeared to be so into the session that I don't mind when we don't K at all, save for some light pecks at the beginning and end of the visit.

Reminds me of a Joke.  

I’ve been a carpenter for 30 years building beautiful homes do they call me “Joe the carpenter?”..... Noooooo
I’ve sailed across the pacific, do they call me “Joe to sailor?) noooo
But you suck one cock and ........

to any conclusions unless the guy who got  sucked off writes a review on Don.  Lol

Enjoyed your reply!

 

I was in flow.  The vibe was positive. Expectations were high.  I met her and she was freaked out about catching COVID.  I assured her I'm clean and did my formalities.  She nodingly approved.  Soapy shower fun was arousing.  We were magnetic.   The pull felt good.

 

She said when I walked in that she was deathly afraid of catching COVID from me and therefore no kissing.  Hmmm. I'm Twoontuesday.  I'm a seasoned veteran with 30 + years of experience in the field. I agree that no means no.  I respect that.  

 

Naked coed shower time was FUCKING AWESOME!  She offered up LFK and P2P.  Worth the price of admission right there...

 

 
But the vibe changed after round #1.  She said no more kissing.  And then she went robot on me and WTAF just happened?!?!  

 

Hindsight is 20 / 20.  When evaluating the session with my network monger brothers, they help me improve my game.  Take the recent YMMV kgirl.  I learned that I'm being selfish asking a kgirl to kiss me at my first session.  When she offered up LFK during the soapy shower fun I thought that was the signal  that I was cool.  Wrong answer!!!  Take whatever LFK is offered and not a kiss more.  When I thought I was gonna have an EPIC MSOG session, I played it wrong.  I went in for more, more and more kisses.  

 

 
YMMV

Love reading your stories. I think it interesting that she said no kissing at the door but then offered it during the shower. Must be a testament to your veteran status.  

There was one girl I saw recently who I think actually took offense at me not initiating the kissing (out of an abundance of caution).

I "usually" get greeted with a DFK at the door before even getting my shoes off at AAMP's, but lately (Post COVID) I have been getting a lot of K-Girl providers only giving a peck at the door until warming up to kissing either during the shower or sometimes not until the session itself has gotten started.  

 
That said, I am patient and as long as the kissing does start at some point I don't mind (not too much at least) if it takes her a few minutes to warm up to it considering what germaphobes most Asian girls are.

One thing I learned a while back is that permission is, or at least can be, quite transient and even ephemeral at times.  

 
The rule I attempt to follow is to always be alert for signs that permission has mysteriously evaporated. I suspect that sometimes girls think they are OK with something and then start to feel like they aren’t and don’t know how to back out of it. Even the girl may have no clue why her feelings changed. But they did and now we both have to deal with it.  If I let this continue for long (which I did once and try very hard to make sure I never do it again) I run the risk of completely losing momentum (or worse) with the girl to the point that nothing can be done except to leave as gracefully as possible.

 
I try to make it easy for them to let me know when they aren’t OK even if they told me they were fine just moments ago. This has the added beneficial effect of making them relax. Because it makes them aware I care about how they feel as I’m checking in with them and giving them permission to change their minds at any time.  

 
Most of the time they just look me in the eyes and I can see some of the tension draining from their face. Sometimes their pupils even dilate a bit. And they say “I OK”. The great ones follow that up with something like “fuck me hard”.

 
Every now and then they suggest a change up of some sort. And I make a point of quickly complying.

 
I do have to come up with lots of different methods of checking in with her in subtle ways. Otherwise, it can feel like I am nagging her. It’s not very hard (no, not that). A gentle caress of the cheek will get her to look in your eyes so you can see if she’s still OK. There are too many little things you can do to list here. But, hopefully, you’ve already gotten the idea.

 
Another rule I follow is that, if what we’re doing isn’t making her wetter then it is probably time to switch it up and find something that will. The wetter she is the more fun it will be. Always.

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have instituted a no-kissing-no-touching policy until after the mouthwash and into the shower, where the action then starts.  Its nothing to do with status of the monger and everything to do with continuing Covid precautions.  These changes were the order of the day in the summer, but are slowly easing as Kgirls come to realize that dying from Covid is not much of a risk for people in their 30's.  The inconvenience of losing two weeks of work still keeps many vigilant, but I'm not seeing as much no-kiss-no-touch lately.  It depends on the girl.

I admire that you tried, but you can't un-brainwash someone in an hour.

Is not easy at the best of times.

 
But I respectfully disagree that it is mostly about time. In my experience, it is always about credibility. Not credentials. The kind of credibility a person grants you out of their own respect for you on the topic under discussion. You can do everything under the sun to make you believe that you’ve earned credibility with a person. But they make the decision.  

 
We can look at examples here on TER. There are people who claim to be experts on various k-girl or k-monger related subjects. But how many people actually believe them? That’s right. Only the people who have somehow convinced themselves of that person’s credibility.  

 
It’s the same with k-girls and everyone else.  

 
Still, this is just my opinion based on my own experience. Any and all are free to disagree.

Happy new year brothers!

 

I was over at vampire kgirl's house yesterday.  A monger dropped in unannounced.  Turns out his wife found some black cock picks on his phone and was WTAF?!?!

 

He came over asking vampire kgirl to cover...

 

 

She asked me if I think he's gay?  I responded that me and my straight monger brothers don't consider sucking cock, swallowing jizz and taking it in the ass...

 

SMH

 

 
YMMV